Montypals: I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way? Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
On 8/14/2015 11:40 PM, Daniel Rich wrote: Daniel, Critical question No. 1: - Fresh water or salt water? If it is fresh water, you should be fine for three or four months. You might grow a bit of algae, but when the boat is out of the water, you can remove it easily. If it you are in salt water - and depending on the water temperature - the main problem is barnacle growth; the warmer the water, the faster the growth. That is why you need anti-fouling paint on the bottom for salt water; to stop the barnacle growth, or if you had a wooden boat, toredo worms which make the bottom of the boat look like Swiss cheese. Connie
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
I moved to the South Puget Sound area about 3 years ago after having my M-15 in boatslips on fresh water lakes for many years on Lake Cour D' Alene and other North Idaho lakes and discovered that keeping the boat in a salt water boatslip requires a bit more work than fresh water. I scrub the boat weekly while in the slip, then outhaul for a fresh water scrub at monthly intervals. That seems to keep the algae an barnacles from getting established and stuck on to the hull. Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conbert Benneck" <chbenneck@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:22 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: My M15 in a slip?
On 8/14/2015 11:40 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Daniel,
Critical question No. 1:
- Fresh water or salt water?
If it is fresh water, you should be fine for three or four months. You might grow a bit of algae, but when the boat is out of the water, you can remove it easily.
If it you are in salt water - and depending on the water temperature - the main problem is barnacle growth; the warmer the water, the faster the growth. That is why you need anti-fouling paint on the bottom for salt water; to stop the barnacle growth, or if you had a wooden boat, toredo worms which make the bottom of the boat look like Swiss cheese.
Connie
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
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Hi Daniel, probably not. We had a boat in fresh water every summer in the great lakes without fouling paint and we would clean off the hull with TSP every fall when it was hauled. It left a brown stain. I have my M-23 in a slip on the Chesapeake and it would never last 3-4 months that way untreated. Hard growth and soft would find it a great home. And hard growth is nasty to get completely off without damaging the hull finish. Good luck with the Scamp! I like the boat and have followed it through Small Craft Advisor. I like building boats (in classes mind you) and am really happy that this boat has led many to build boats. I think it is a great size for building and a very cool boat once done. I really do feel that in many ways the smaller the better. Robbin M-23 "Pinch me" Deale MD On 8/15/2015 12:40 AM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
No more than two or three weeks if in salt water. If in freshwater it depends on the local conditions. Have Sage 17s in freshwater around the country that require paint not only because the boat would have feet of growth on the bottom, but because of zebra mussels. Discuss with boat owners and yards at the marina you will be keeping the boat. Local conditions require local behaviour. This includes the type of bottom paint you use as some brands work better than others in different bodies of water and sometimes even in different marinas on the same bodies of water. More discussion and detail here - https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/bottom-paint-blues/ https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/antifouling-bottom-paint-sel... https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/antifouling-bottom-paint-the... :: Dave Scobie On Aug 14, 2015 10:40 PM, "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Hmm, sadness. I will be in salt water in Bodega Bay. Water is always about 52 degrees. OK, I will inquire about bottom paint for the boat. Daniel
On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
No more than two or three weeks if in salt water.
If in freshwater it depends on the local conditions. Have Sage 17s in freshwater around the country that require paint not only because the boat would have feet of growth on the bottom, but because of zebra mussels.
Discuss with boat owners and yards at the marina you will be keeping the boat. Local conditions require local behaviour. This includes the type of bottom paint you use as some brands work better than others in different bodies of water and sometimes even in different marinas on the same bodies of water.
More discussion and detail here -
https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/bottom-paint-blues/
https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/antifouling-bottom-paint-sel...
https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/antifouling-bottom-paint-the...
:: Dave Scobie On Aug 14, 2015 10:40 PM, "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Consider barrier coat under the anti fouling.
On Aug 15, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm, sadness. I will be in salt water in Bodega Bay. Water is always about 52 degrees. OK, I will inquire about bottom paint for the boat.
Daniel
On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
No more than two or three weeks if in salt water.
If in freshwater it depends on the local conditions. Have Sage 17s in freshwater around the country that require paint not only because the boat would have feet of growth on the bottom, but because of zebra mussels.
Discuss with boat owners and yards at the marina you will be keeping the boat. Local conditions require local behaviour. This includes the type of bottom paint you use as some brands work better than others in different bodies of water and sometimes even in different marinas on the same bodies of water.
More discussion and detail here -
https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/bottom-paint-blues/
https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/antifouling-bottom-paint-sel...
https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/antifouling-bottom-paint-the...
:: Dave Scobie
On Aug 14, 2015 10:40 PM, "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Daniel, would like to connect with you. I also have an M15 in Sonoma County. My email is thoslloyd@gmail.com Tom From my phone
On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm, sadness. I will be in salt water in Bodega Bay. Water is always about 52 degrees. OK, I will inquire about bottom paint for the boat.
Daniel
On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
No more than two or three weeks if in salt water.
If in freshwater it depends on the local conditions. Have Sage 17s in freshwater around the country that require paint not only because the boat would have feet of growth on the bottom, but because of zebra mussels.
Discuss with boat owners and yards at the marina you will be keeping the boat. Local conditions require local behaviour. This includes the type of bottom paint you use as some brands work better than others in different bodies of water and sometimes even in different marinas on the same bodies of water.
More discussion and detail here -
https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/bottom-paint-blues/
https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/03/30/antifouling-bottom-paint-sel...
https://sagemarineblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/antifouling-bottom-paint-the...
:: Dave Scobie
On Aug 14, 2015 10:40 PM, "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
You could also try a "boat bath" if the marina allows it. This is a tarp that fits under the boat, and is filled with fresh water or a small amount of bleach to keep anything from growing. You can make it from a normal hardware store tarp, if you cut it to shape and add new grommets. If you weigh it down with lead weights, it can stay in place while you are out boating, but you pull it up and tie it tight against the bottom of the boat when you are in the slip. Tyler
On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:40 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Hi Daniel, Ken Wheeler here. I assume you mean Lake Sonoma. I kept my M17 there for several summers but always had abalative bottom paint. Some boats use bottom paint, some don't . If you don't, you will need to clean the bottoms every year or 6 months. Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:40 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Hey, nice to hear from ya! Hope all is well. Actually, I mean Bodega Harbor, like Spud Point Marina. D
On Aug 15, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Ken Wheeler <kww707@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi Daniel, Ken Wheeler here. I assume you mean Lake Sonoma. I kept my M17 there for several summers but always had abalative bottom paint. Some boats use bottom paint, some don't . If you don't, you will need to clean the bottoms every year or 6 months.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:40 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
I am currently building a SCAMP sailboat, so I have had to move my Monty over to a friend’s house for now. That got me to thinking that maybe now is the time to put the Monty in a slip at the local harbor. I don’t have any antifouling paint on the bottom of the boat. Would the boat be OK for 3-4 months that way?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
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