Hey, what do you use for a porta potty in your M-15. The space for one is so so small that I cannot find a single porta potty that would fit in that 12” wide space.
Doug, The toilet you are looking for is the Thetford 135. Originally, when Jerry designed the M-15 this was the model that he used to create the toilet storage well. Unfortunately, Thetford redesigned the 135 and it no longer fit the existing storage well. However there is a way of getting this model to fit the older M-15's. All you need is several gallons of boiling water and 2 beers. Here are the instructions to retro fit your Thetford 135: Place the toilet into the existing storage well. Open the toilet lid and toilet bowl trap door. Poor in 2+ gallons of boiling water. Close the toilet lid. Sit on top of the toilet lid, pushing the toilet into the existing storage well. While remaining seated, open one of the cold beers you brought with you. Begin drinking the beer slowly. Once you have emptied the first beer, repeat with the second beer. The softened plastic will reform itself to the shape of the existing storage well. After the water has cooled, the Thetford base will now fit you M-15 just like the original. Please keep in mind the current Thetford 135 has been redesigned........again!! And this time, I'm not sure if it will fit or not. I'm sending you the link of the previous model which will fit (will a little encouragement) in an M-15. At least the early models back in the 80's. Good Luck!! Skip M-15 #201 1982 M-5.5 #177 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thetford-135-Porta-Potti-RV-Camper-Tenting-Portable... -----Original Message----- From: doug <doug9326@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 2, 2018 1:49 pm Subject: M_Boats: Porto Potti Hey, what do you use for a porta potty in your M-15. The space for one is so so small that I cannot find a single porta potty that would fit in that 12” wide space.
Go on Amazon and check out clean waste portable toilet. Packs up small and the Wag bags are nicer to deal with than the liquid chemicals used in traditional portable toilets. No mess and no stink. I face mine forward for use, but sit facing aft. It is more stable this way. I also buy the wag bag military version in 50 count packages which gets the cost down to about $2. I prefer this in a secluded anchorage to a public restroom at the city dock or park. Cleaner, smells better and it offers a great view. The sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptical. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Monday, July 2, 2018 doug <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hey, what do you use for a porta potty in your M-15. The space for one is so so small that I cannot find a single porta potty that would fit in that 12” wide space.
Re. the "clean waste portable toilet". "...the sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptacle." Could make some interesting dumpster diving. "Bucket and chuck it" is what most lobstermen and women do here in Maine. Those with open transoms often just squat off the stern for number two. It is a matter of continuing humor for the stern man or captain to swing the boat around to expose the other to pleasure boaters sailing by. It helps feed the lobsters, too. (Nasty, bottom feeding oversized cockroaches of the sea. I say this because I'm allergic to them.) But most waters do not allow bucket and chuck it. We have a friend who lived in post WWII Germany. They were in an old farmhouse in the country due to their home bombed out in the city. They used a bucket, and then sprinkled peat moss over their waste. He swears there was no odor at all. Of course, dumping this in the countryside would be easy...not so in the "onshore trash receptacle". But, one might use peat moss instead of the kitty litter stuff. --Burt On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 3:38 PM, msminchome--- via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Go on Amazon and check out clean waste portable toilet. Packs up small and the Wag bags are nicer to deal with than the liquid chemicals used in traditional portable toilets. No mess and no stink. I face mine forward for use, but sit facing aft. It is more stable this way. I also buy the wag bag military version in 50 count packages which gets the cost down to about $2. I prefer this in a secluded anchorage to a public restroom at the city dock or park. Cleaner, smells better and it offers a great view. The sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptical.
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On Monday, July 2, 2018 doug <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hey, what do you use for a porta potty in your M-15. The space for one is so so small that I cannot find a single porta potty that would fit in that 12” wide space.
Re. the "clean waste portable toilet".
"...the sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptacle." Could make some interesting dumpster diving.
Sealed wag bags are certainly much less disgusting and more sanitary than all the un-bagged disposable baby diapers that dumpsters are full of. On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 5:13 AM, Burton Lowry <burtonlowry7@gmail.com> wrote:
Re. the "clean waste portable toilet".
"...the sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptacle." Could make some interesting dumpster diving.
"Bucket and chuck it" is what most lobstermen and women do here in Maine. Those with open transoms often just squat off the stern for number two. It is a matter of continuing humor for the stern man or captain to swing the boat around to expose the other to pleasure boaters sailing by. It helps feed the lobsters, too. (Nasty, bottom feeding oversized cockroaches of the sea. I say this because I'm allergic to them.) But most waters do not allow bucket and chuck it.
We have a friend who lived in post WWII Germany. They were in an old farmhouse in the country due to their home bombed out in the city. They used a bucket, and then sprinkled peat moss over their waste. He swears there was no odor at all. Of course, dumping this in the countryside would be easy...not so in the "onshore trash receptacle". But, one might use peat moss instead of the kitty litter stuff.
--Burt
On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 3:38 PM, msminchome--- via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Go on Amazon and check out clean waste portable toilet. Packs up small and the Wag bags are nicer to deal with than the liquid chemicals used in traditional portable toilets. No mess and no stink. I face mine forward for use, but sit facing aft. It is more stable this way. I also buy the wag bag military version in 50 count packages which gets the cost down to about $2. I prefer this in a secluded anchorage to a public restroom at the city dock or park. Cleaner, smells better and it offers a great view. The sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptical.
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On Monday, July 2, 2018 doug <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hey, what do you use for a porta potty in your M-15. The space for one is so so small that I cannot find a single porta potty that would fit in that 12” wide space.
I take it you have their portable toilet seat assembly then, to use with the bags? I looked at this a couple years ago and it definitely is the best solution I've seen for pocket cruisers like ours. Can you tell us the collapsed/folded up dimensions of their unit when it's all packed up? I can't find any dimensions on their web site. They give a weight but no dimensions. Amazon says 19 x 4 x 15 inches but I've seen their dimensions be massively incorrect, or be for the packaging not the product and so on. It looks like with the bags, a simple utility bucket with toilet seat (like those for 5-gal buckets and similar diameter shorter buckets) would work also, cost less, and be an all-purpose boat bucket, when not needed for toilet bag platform. thanks John On 07/02/2018 12:38 PM, msminchome--- via montgomery_boats wrote:
Go on Amazon and check out clean waste portable toilet. Packs up small and the Wag bags are nicer to deal with than the liquid chemicals used in traditional portable toilets. No mess and no stink. I face mine forward for use, but sit facing aft. It is more stable this way. I also buy the wag bag military version in 50 count packages which gets the cost down to about $2. I prefer this in a secluded anchorage to a public restroom at the city dock or park. Cleaner, smells better and it offers a great view. The sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptical.
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On Monday, July 2, 2018 doug <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hey, what do you use for a porta potty in your M-15. The space for one is so so small that I cannot find a single porta potty that would fit in that 12” wide space.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
I don't know what the size of their folding seat arrangement is. I use one of the seats that are made to fit on a 5 gallon bucket. Those buckets are too tall for the location on a M17 however, so I found a 3 gallon bucket that has the same size rim. The seat fits on it, and I did a little "shimming" under the bucket to make it even with the lip of the v-berth for.... um, more comfort while otherwise engaged. Wag bags are double sealed and clearly marked as to contents when used. Much more sanitary for disposal than diapers, which our landfills are full of. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:28 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
I take it you have their portable toilet seat assembly then, to use with the bags?
I looked at this a couple years ago and it definitely is the best solution I've seen for pocket cruisers like ours.
Can you tell us the collapsed/folded up dimensions of their unit when it's all packed up? I can't find any dimensions on their web site. They give a weight but no dimensions.
Amazon says 19 x 4 x 15 inches but I've seen their dimensions be massively incorrect, or be for the packaging not the product and so on.
It looks like with the bags, a simple utility bucket with toilet seat (like those for 5-gal buckets and similar diameter shorter buckets) would work also, cost less, and be an all-purpose boat bucket, when not needed for toilet bag platform.
thanks John
On 07/02/2018 12:38 PM, msminchome--- via montgomery_boats wrote:
Go on Amazon and check out clean waste portable toilet. Packs up small and the Wag bags are nicer to deal with than the liquid chemicals used in traditional portable toilets. No mess and no stink. I face mine forward for use, but sit facing aft. It is more stable this way. I also buy the wag bag military version in 50 count packages which gets the cost down to about $2. I prefer this in a secluded anchorage to a public restroom at the city dock or park. Cleaner, smells better and it offers a great view. The sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptical.
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On Monday, July 2, 2018 doug <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hey, what do you use for a porta potty in your M-15. The space for one is so so small that I cannot find a single porta potty that would fit in that 12” wide space.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Gotta check out Blackpine Sports Turbo seat/toilet. Just got mine and it fits and after using good bags, not the ones that come with it, it works great. Have to use the solution to clump liquids and de-stink the solids. Highly recommended. Only $50.
On Jul 5, 2018, at 5:42 PM, Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know what the size of their folding seat arrangement is. I use one of the seats that are made to fit on a 5 gallon bucket. Those buckets are too tall for the location on a M17 however, so I found a 3 gallon bucket that has the same size rim. The seat fits on it, and I did a little "shimming" under the bucket to make it even with the lip of the v-berth for.... um, more comfort while otherwise engaged.
Wag bags are double sealed and clearly marked as to contents when used. Much more sanitary for disposal than diapers, which our landfills are full of.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:28 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
I take it you have their portable toilet seat assembly then, to use with the bags?
I looked at this a couple years ago and it definitely is the best solution I've seen for pocket cruisers like ours.
Can you tell us the collapsed/folded up dimensions of their unit when it's all packed up? I can't find any dimensions on their web site. They give a weight but no dimensions.
Amazon says 19 x 4 x 15 inches but I've seen their dimensions be massively incorrect, or be for the packaging not the product and so on.
It looks like with the bags, a simple utility bucket with toilet seat (like those for 5-gal buckets and similar diameter shorter buckets) would work also, cost less, and be an all-purpose boat bucket, when not needed for toilet bag platform.
thanks John
On 07/02/2018 12:38 PM, msminchome--- via montgomery_boats wrote:
Go on Amazon and check out clean waste portable toilet. Packs up small and the Wag bags are nicer to deal with than the liquid chemicals used in traditional portable toilets. No mess and no stink. I face mine forward for use, but sit facing aft. It is more stable this way. I also buy the wag bag military version in 50 count packages which gets the cost down to about $2. I prefer this in a secluded anchorage to a public restroom at the city dock or park. Cleaner, smells better and it offers a great view. The sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptical.
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On Monday, July 2, 2018 doug <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hey, what do you use for a porta potty in your M-15. The space for one is so so small that I cannot find a single porta potty that would fit in that 12” wide space.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Here's the military multi-packs: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EWHZ7NG/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?th=1&psc=1 But if you get the DIY kit it's only $1/bag. No preloaded TP and hand wipe and second bag, just the bags and powder with measure scoop. Is some TP and a hand wipe and another plastic bag worth over twice the price? Or just provide those from cheaper sources...you decide: https://www.amazon.com/Cleanwaste-Toilet-Bag-DIY-pack/dp/B009A6VM1G/ref=sr_1... If I were backpacking or boat-packing or cycling and had to transport bags stuffed into packs and bags, I might opt for the double bagging. But on my Monty there's plenty of room to have some other rigid container with lid to put the single bags into until reaching appropriate "shore-side disposal" facilities (e.g. trash cans). cheers, John On 07/02/2018 12:38 PM, msminchome--- via montgomery_boats wrote:
Go on Amazon and check out clean waste portable toilet. Packs up small and the Wag bags are nicer to deal with than the liquid chemicals used in traditional portable toilets. No mess and no stink. I face mine forward for use, but sit facing aft. It is more stable this way. I also buy the wag bag military version in 50 count packages which gets the cost down to about $2. I prefer this in a secluded anchorage to a public restroom at the city dock or park. Cleaner, smells better and it offers a great view. The sealed bags can be legally disposed of in any onshore trash receptical.
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On Monday, July 2, 2018 doug <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Hey, what do you use for a porta potty in your M-15. The space for one is so so small that I cannot find a single porta potty that would fit in that 12” wide space.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
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