I have an Origo heater (and stove) and they work great, not as hi-tech as Sean's heater, but takes the chill off and then you slip into a good sleeping bag! We have used it in the cockpit on a marathon January distance race! Huddled around the Origo like a campfire on the cockpit sole! You can also dry your socks on the thing, heat tortillas, and brew a good cup of tea - What a machine! DO NOT CLOSE UP THE CABIN!! I sail where it is warm, lucky I am that way. Take Care, Have Fun, Go Sailing. GO In a message dated 6/9/2009 8:25:43 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, hammerguy@bellsouth.net writes: David: I'd never do it without a CO monitor of some sort... they are fairly inexpensive now, especially compared to the cost of a casket... MAN, those things are pricey! I've heard that Origo's alcohol heaters work well. I've got one of their unpressurized stoves, and it's a quality unit. Be SAFE, BG Brian Gilbert Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer Sailer On Jun 8, 2009, at 6:47 PM, montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com wrote:
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:53:08 -0600 From: "David C. Patterson" <davidcpatterson@msn.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Cabin heater on an M17? Message-ID: <BLU147-DAV10B033D5FA92AA8EEE7A2DAC470@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Having just read the latest Small Craft Advisor, where a Sam Devlin built boat near M17 size has a solid fuel heater, I am wondering if anyone has tried putting a cabin heater in their 17. I was able to sail into mid-November last year, on a reservoir near Denver. My last of several fall overnights was Nov 16. I was fine sleeping, yet could really have used some heat (that was safe) when I up and about in the cabin. The frost all over the cockpit and boat disappeared in the sun, of course. I think a cabin heater might extend my sailing season. My first sail in April was just after a big snow, too. And I think I see a place for Charley Noble. Any ideas or experiences out there, especially from those of you in the higher latitudes? Fall will come in time, I fear. David (M17 #393)
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One thing about any kind of heater that burns fuel, used inside the cabin without a vent......and that could include something as simple as a candle, is that in addition to carbon monoxide and depletion of oxygen, all of them produce water vapor. Unvented, moisture is going to accumulate inside the cabin, condensing on anything cool. Given enough time at this, damp can turn to wet as moisture starts to condense on the cold surfaces. Most of us lose almost a quart of water each night through our skin and breath alone. Cooped up in a tight cabin, even with no heat, things are going to get damp. Vented heat will help. Unvented heat will only make it worse. That even applies to a guy buried in a sleeping bag with no heat. Keep the cabin somewhat open so the water can get out. Unless you can find a vented source of heat, I'd stick with a really warm sleeping bag, fleece or better, wool clothing, wool socks, etc. When you are actually up and around, something as simple as your cook stove will take off some of the chill. And keep the whole thing well vented to let the water vapor out. On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:23 PM, GILASAILR@aol.com wrote:
I have an Origo heater (and stove) and they work great, not as hi-tech as Sean's heater, but takes the chill off and then you slip into a good sleeping bag! We have used it in the cockpit on a marathon January distance race! Huddled around the Origo like a campfire on the cockpit sole! You can also dry your socks on the thing, heat tortillas, and brew a good cup of tea - What a machine!
DO NOT CLOSE UP THE CABIN!!
I sail where it is warm, lucky I am that way.
Take Care, Have Fun, Go Sailing.
GO
In a message dated 6/9/2009 8:25:43 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, hammerguy@bellsouth.net writes:
David:
I'd never do it without a CO monitor of some sort... they are fairly inexpensive now, especially compared to the cost of a casket... MAN, those things are pricey!
I've heard that Origo's alcohol heaters work well. I've got one of their unpressurized stoves, and it's a quality unit.
Be SAFE, BG
Brian Gilbert Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer Sailer
On Jun 8, 2009, at 6:47 PM, montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com wrote:
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:53:08 -0600 From: "David C. Patterson" <davidcpatterson@msn.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Cabin heater on an M17? Message-ID: <BLU147-DAV10B033D5FA92AA8EEE7A2DAC470@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Having just read the latest Small Craft Advisor, where a Sam Devlin built boat near M17 size has a solid fuel heater, I am wondering if anyone has tried putting a cabin heater in their 17. I was able to sail into mid-November last year, on a reservoir near Denver. My last of several fall overnights was Nov 16. I was fine sleeping, yet could really have used some heat (that was safe) when I up and about in the cabin. The frost all over the cockpit and boat disappeared in the sun, of course. I think a cabin heater might extend my sailing season. My first sail in April was just after a big snow, too. And I think I see a place for Charley Noble. Any ideas or experiences out there, especially from those of you in the higher latitudes? Fall will come in time, I fear. David (M17 #393)
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