From Jerry's rigging site:
Regarding the Montgomery 15, the only change I ever made to the standing rigging during the production life of the boat was to increase the length of the forestay about an inch and shorten the shrouds about half that much. Initially, there was an amazing coincidence in that all three wires were nearly the same length; plenty close enough so that the stay adjusters would take up the difference if the forestay was set in one of the last two holes. Only problem was that new sailors would try to balance all the wires to as close to the center of the adjusters as possible which set up the mast too plumb; the 15 sails best with the mast raked aft. As soon as I became aware that people were doing this I simply lengthened the forestay and shortened the shrouds, encouraging owners to set up the mast with a little rake. I hate to see Montgomery boats going slow!
What I'd like to know is, when did the change in rigging occur? Mine's an '84, should I lengthen the forestay? Bobbie
I'm guessing that the change was in 82. I wouldn't worry about it; either setup is just fine. Set it up to where it sails the best. A point to remember- as sails wear out the draft moves aft which increases weather helm, which needs to be adjusted out. The mast needs to be raked aft visually, but the real test is how it sails. Jerry jerrymontgomery.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobbie Mayer" <barbaram@csufresno.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:14 AM Subject: M_Boats: Dismasting due to old rigging
From Jerry's rigging site:
Regarding the Montgomery 15, the only change I ever made to the standing rigging during the production life of the boat was to increase the length of the forestay about an inch and shorten the shrouds about half that much. Initially, there was an amazing coincidence in that all three wires were nearly the same length; plenty close enough so that the stay adjusters would take up the difference if the forestay was set in one of the last two holes. Only problem was that new sailors would try to balance all the wires to as close to the center of the adjusters as possible which set up the mast too plumb; the 15 sails best with the mast raked aft. As soon as I became aware that people were doing this I simply lengthened the forestay and shortened the shrouds, encouraging owners to set up the mast with a little rake. I hate to see Montgomery boats going slow!
What I'd like to know is, when did the change in rigging occur? Mine's an '84, should I lengthen the forestay?
Bobbie
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Someone pointed out something to me that deserves some consideration. While having a little slack in the rig while sailing may be a good thing it's going to increase the stress on the rig when the boat is anchored in a chop. Any ideas on how to easily avoid this? I don't think bungee cords would really help much, need something firmer. Norm
Norm, I have always used a bungee. I run it between the shrouds, and under the boom to keep it from working up. If the bungee if fairly snug, it does keeps the mast from flogging. Bill Riker M-15 - #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Norm Lane Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:46 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: Dismasting due to old rigging Someone pointed out something to me that deserves some consideration. While having a little slack in the rig while sailing may be a good thing it's going to increase the stress on the rig when the boat is anchored in a chop. Any ideas on how to easily avoid this? I don't think bungee cords would really help much, need something firmer. Norm _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Well, once again Jerry has pointed out the obvious (in hindsight) solution. Crank down on the jib halyard. As to keeping the boom from flopping around, I just tie lines from the end of the boom to the mooring cleats. Should be less stress on the hardware than trying to secure it at mid boom. I think working against the topping lift would be better than tightening up the main sheet. Once I get the boat fixed, I'm planning on staying anchored out all season and the anchorage can be choppy, so this subject is dear to my heart. I've been anchoring just outside the city's mooring field, so I get the benefit of the water taxi without having to pay for a mooring. Folks from other parts of the country would be amazed at what they charge here. Norm -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+nl=sagatech.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+nl=sagatech.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Norm Lane Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:46 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: Dismasting due to old rigging Someone pointed out something to me that deserves some consideration. While having a little slack in the rig while sailing may be a good thing it's going to increase the stress on the rig when the boat is anchored in a chop. Any ideas on how to easily avoid this? I don't think bungee cords would really help much, need something firmer. Norm
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