RE: M_Boats: M-15 Boat Review
A far braver man than I captain. Have you done any sailing on the SF bay with the big boys ? That is my goal after adequate training. ----LH. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Ripley [mailto:brian_ripley@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:43 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: M-15 Boat Review Larry, The Thetford PP 135/235 is a perfect fit in the M15. I believe there is a slight gap between the pottie and the plywood cover when everything is in place. I see there is even a marine model 735 that has hold down clamps; of course that isn't necessary in the M15 since, as hard as I've tried, I haven't been able to turtle it. I did manage to put the mast down on the water once; I was so impressed with how well it came back up that I sheeted in and layed it down again; the head was never an issue during all this. Brian Ripley '88 M15 Roseville, CA --- "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov> wrote:
Brian,
I want to get the Thetford 135 for my M-15 but does this model allow you put the plywood cover and cushion in place and level with the starboard and port berths? --Larry, hull # 189, 1981 model
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Ripley [mailto:brian_ripley@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:46 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-15 Boat Review
My '88 M15 still has its original Thetford Porta Pottie 235. The 235 has the same dimensions as the 135 with the addition of a locking lid and a level indicator on the waste tank. The level indicator is pretty handy for knowing when to empty but the locking lid probably doesn't add much since the head is fit so snugly in its place.
Brian Ripley Roseville, CA
--- Jerry Montgomery <jmbn@innercite.com> wrote:
Originally tooled for the Porta Potti 35, which became obsolete a year or two later, replaced by the PP 135. At that time I re-tooled the floorpan to fit the 135. Don't know if they still make the 135 or not.
You can fit the 135 into the early pans by heating the head and forcing it in; I used a hair dryer but others claim good results by filling it with hot water.
Jerry
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 8:15 AM Subject: RE: M_Boats: M-15 Boat Review
Jerry, as you know by now I am the new owner of hull#189 M-15. Can you tell me which portapotty fits in that space? It seems VERY short if I want to place the plywood and cushion back over the portapotty. Thanks for making a very sturdy little boat. I am still "dry sailing"....it's great! ----Larry H. Sacramento
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While I haven't sailed the M15 in the SF bay I have sailed a 35 footer and a 26 footer out there. I don't see any reason why the M15 couldn't handle it. Strangely enough the only time my mast touched the water was on Folsom; normally a pretty placid lake but it sure was white capping that day. I only had the main up at the time; I can't remember if it was reefed or not. The iron genoa got me off the lake soon after playing with lay downs. In some ways I would think the bay would be better than an inland lake. Wind driven waves are more predictable than water skier generated chop. Brian Ripley '88 M15 Roseville, CA --- "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov> wrote:
A far braver man than I captain. Have you done any sailing on the SF bay with the big boys ? That is my goal after adequate training. ----LH.
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Ripley [mailto:brian_ripley@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:43 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: M-15 Boat Review
Larry,
The Thetford PP 135/235 is a perfect fit in the M15. I believe there is a slight gap between the pottie and the plywood cover when everything is in place. I see there is even a marine model 735 that has hold down clamps; of course that isn't necessary in the M15 since, as hard as I've tried, I haven't been able to turtle it. I did manage to put the mast down on the water once; I was so impressed with how well it came back up that I sheeted in and layed it down again; the head was never an issue during all this.
Brian Ripley '88 M15 Roseville, CA
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Yes, I have. Typically 12 meter or larger. Sometimes wet berthed in Brisbane (West side of the Bay) or the Brickyard on the East Side. I/We used to get requests from foreign Business visitors to sail in the 'Pacific Ocean'. That is technically past the one mile Buoy. On an ebb Tide (evening after work situation), you can blow right through the Golden Gate (it is helping you 'big time'). However if it is still an Ebb tide when it is time to go home (guests are tired and ready to get sleep), then you'll be using full motor throttle to make headway. So Please Pay attention to the tides through the Golden Gate. Staying inside the Bay is fine in fair weather. I just had an invite to 'stick my head into the office at Port of Redwood City. I used to sail out of Pete's harbor quite a bit also (takes forever to reach open water). So Enjoy!! ga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Ripley" <brian_ripley@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:53 AM Subject: M_Boats: RE: SF Bay sailing
While I haven't sailed the M15 in the SF bay I have sailed a 35 footer and a 26 footer out there. I don't see any reason why the M15 couldn't handle it. Strangely enough the only time my mast touched the water was on Folsom; normally a pretty placid lake but it sure was white capping that day. I only had the main up at the time; I can't remember if it was reefed or not. The iron genoa got me off the lake soon after playing with lay downs.
In some ways I would think the bay would be better than an inland lake. Wind driven waves are more predictable than water skier generated chop.
Brian Ripley '88 M15 Roseville, CA
--- "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov> wrote:
A far braver man than I captain. Have you done any sailing on the SF bay with the big boys ? That is my goal after adequate training. ----LH.
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Ripley [mailto:brian_ripley@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:43 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: M-15 Boat Review
Larry,
The Thetford PP 135/235 is a perfect fit in the M15. I believe there is a slight gap between the pottie and the plywood cover when everything is in place. I see there is even a marine model 735 that has hold down clamps; of course that isn't necessary in the M15 since, as hard as I've tried, I haven't been able to turtle it. I did manage to put the mast down on the water once; I was so impressed with how well it came back up that I sheeted in and layed it down again; the head was never an issue during all this.
Brian Ripley '88 M15 Roseville, CA
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