Re: M_Boats: Styrofoam in V berth storage
Hi George, My M15 just has two Styrofoam logs in the front compartment, leaving lots of good, usable storage space. I keep my heavy anchor, chain, and rode there; as well as my battery to run my GPS / CD player. Putting water up front to trim the ship is an excellent idea. Some foam may be nice to have (but in over 30 years of sailing I've never gotten water inside my vessels) so I'd rather use the space for storage (water, wine, beer and food) than flotation. Remember the first rule of sailing is: Keep the water on the outside of the boat by having sail locker lids that are gasketed and can be locked closed; and hatch boards that will keep out 95% of the water in the event of a severe knockdown. If you do that, then boats generally stay afloat, unless rammed by a submarine; hit by a torpedo, run onto a mine, or have the misfortune to encounter the dreaded Krakken in the middle of the ocean. Happy sailing Connie M15 #400 LEPPO
Connie, Using the Styrofoam, how much would you need to make the m15 or 17 Non sinkable??? Is that the type of foam that falls part in little pieces after a few years being wet. ?? MC
MC: I used the pink urethane foam. It stays together well. Since the M15 takes 10 cu ft and weighs half as much as the M17, it would seem that 20 cu ft of foam would handle the M17. --Gary On Monday, February 16, 2004, at 12:22 PM, MC wrote:
Connie, Using the Styrofoam, how much would you need to make the m15 or 17 Non sinkable??? Is that the type of foam that falls part in little pieces after a few years being wet. ??
MC
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I did see an almost sunk container of the coast of Ft Lauderdale a few years back. it was drifting in the gulf stream about a foot out of the water, I heard it fell off a China container ship .. Hitting that in the darkness would be , well it might just ruin that evening? Apparently Asia vessels do not need or want to lock the containers together some how. That foam idea sounds like it would be the insurance against sinking if it would not take up the whole interior. Would air bladders work, like inflatable water tanks. How much boat can be float with each gallon container of air? any one know
MC: I put the floatation back in my M15--the previous owner had removed it. I contacted Jerry Montgomery and he said 10 cubic feet of foam would do it. So I filled up most of the locker in the bow and then put some sheets of it along the sides under the cockpit. I hardly know it's there. --Gary Hyde M15 #235 'Vanilla' N24 'Sailabration' On Monday, February 16, 2004, at 12:33 PM, MC wrote:
I did see an almost sunk container of the coast of Ft Lauderdale a few years back. it was drifting in the gulf stream about a foot out of the water, I heard it fell off a China container ship .. Hitting that in the darkness would be , well it might just ruin that evening? Apparently Asia vessels do not need or want to lock the containers together some how.
That foam idea sounds like it would be the insurance against sinking if it would not take up the whole interior. Would air bladders work, like inflatable water tanks. How much boat can be float with each gallon container of air? any one know
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Funny you should mention the Krakken, Connie. There is a Jerry story in which someone pried their stuck M17 centerboard loose, to find that the problem was an unfortunate octopus jammed in the centerboard trunk. Calamari, anyone? --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: <chbenneck@juno.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 2:28 PM Subject: Styrofoam in V berth storage Hi George, My M15 just has two Styrofoam logs in the front compartment, leaving lots of good, usable storage space. I keep my heavy anchor, chain, and rode there; as well as my battery to run my GPS / CD player. Putting water up front to trim the ship is an excellent idea. Some foam may be nice to have (but in over 30 years of sailing I've never gotten water inside my vessels) so I'd rather use the space for storage (water, wine, beer and food) than flotation. Remember the first rule of sailing is: Keep the water on the outside of the boat by having sail locker lids that are gasketed and can be locked closed; and hatch boards that will keep out 95% of the water in the event of a severe knockdown. If you do that, then boats generally stay afloat, unless rammed by a submarine; hit by a torpedo, run onto a mine, or have the misfortune to encounter the dreaded Krakken in the middle of the ocean. Happy sailing Connie M15 #400 LEPPO
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