Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.
George, I made a mast raising mechanism that works for me. It consists of a 6 ft. 2X4 with a fork on one end, an angle iron on the other, and a winch mounted to the trailer mast support column. The fork straddles the boom near its base, and is held in place with a pin made from 5/16 drill rod tapered on the end that is inserted through the fork and mast. The hole in the mast can be made easily with a tool called a 'unibit'. It's a tool that lends itself to drilling holes in thin aluminum, and increases in diameter in steps as it drills further into the metal. You could probably find one in the tool department at Home Depot or Lowes. The angle iron is bolted to the other end , to which the forestay and the line from the winch are attached. It helps to have a second person stand beside the mast as it's being raised to keep it from swinging off center. Lines can be rigged to prevent this, but it's just easier to have an extra set of hands. The force required to keep it in line are very light and require very little strength to accomplish. It also helps to have someone lean forward against the mast while the forestay is being attached, as this will allow the use of both hands instead of having to use one of them to hang onto the forestay.I don't have any pictures at present, but the next time I raise the mast (June 7 at Reedville, VA,....CBC 2003) I'll take pictures, scan and e-mail them. I too am in my seventh decade and need all the mechanical advantage I can muster. Best regards, Clarence Andrews Signal Mountain, TN M-17 Carpe Ventum #604----- Original Message ----- From: Egatempo@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: M_Boats: Mast Raising Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
I'd like to see those pics when you take them, Clarence. It occurs to me that if your 17' has the perforated aluminum toe-rail, you could lead lines to the mast, port and starboard, to prevent lateral movement for single-handed raising . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: n9ca To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:10 PM Subject: Mast Raising George, I made a mast raising mechanism that works for me. It consists of a 6 ft. 2X4 with a fork on one end, an angle iron on the other, and a winch mounted to the trailer mast support column. The fork straddles the boom near its base, and is held in place with a pin made from 5/16 drill rod tapered on the end that is inserted through the fork and mast. The hole in the mast can be made easily with a tool called a 'unibit'. It's a tool that lends itself to drilling holes in thin aluminum, and increases in diameter in steps as it drills further into the metal. You could probably find one in the tool department at Home Depot or Lowes. The angle iron is bolted to the other end , to which the forestay and the line from the winch are attached. It helps to have a second person stand beside the mast as it's being raised to keep it from swinging off center. Lines can be rigged to prevent this, but it's just easier to have an extra set of hands. The force required to keep it in line are very light and require very little strength to accomplish. It also helps to have someone lean forward against the mast while the forestay is being attached, as this will allow the use of both hands instead of having to use one of them to hang onto the forestay.I don't have any pictures at present, but the next time I raise the mast (June 7 at Reedville, VA,....CBC 2003) I'll take pictures, scan and e-mail them. I too am in my seventh decade and need all the mechanical advantage I can muster. Best regards, Clarence Andrews Signal Mountain, TN M-17 Carpe Ventum #604 ----- Original Message ----- From: Egatempo@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Mast Raising Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.
The Nor'Sea website, www.montgomeryboats.com, has pics of a mast-raising system they set up for a new buyer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Egatempo@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Mast Raising Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.
Craig, The only mast raising system I saw was for the new M-23, which has a different tabernacle configuration than the M-17. Did I miss something? Clarence----- Original Message ----- From: Honshells To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: M_Boats: Mast Raising The Nor'Sea website, www.montgomeryboats.com, has pics of a mast-raising system they set up for a new buyer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Egatempo@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Mast Raising Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Clarence, Here's the link to page 4 of the M17 photos . . . It shows the factory mast-raising system: No details or text, but someone who knows what they're looking at (which doesn't include me :-) ) might be the general idea . . . --Craig http://www.montgomeryboats.com/m17photo4.html ----- Original Message ----- From: n9ca To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 1:16 PM Subject: Mast Raising Craig, The only mast raising system I saw was for the new M-23, which has a different tabernacle configuration than the M-17. Did I miss something? Clarence ----- Original Message ----- From: Honshells To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: Mast Raising The Nor'Sea website, www.montgomeryboats.com, has pics of a mast-raising system they set up for a new buyer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Egatempo@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Mast Raising Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.
Clarence, Here's the link to page 4 of the M17 photos . . . It shows the factory mast-raising system: No details or text, but someone who knows what they're looking at (which doesn't include me :-) ) might get the general idea . . . --Craig http://www.montgomeryboats.com/m17photo4.html ----- Original Message ----- From: n9ca To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 1:16 PM Subject: Mast Raising Craig, The only mast raising system I saw was for the new M-23, which has a different tabernacle configuration than the M-17. Did I miss something? Clarence ----- Original Message ----- From: Honshells To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: Mast Raising The Nor'Sea website, www.montgomeryboats.com, has pics of a mast-raising system they set up for a new buyer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Egatempo@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Mast Raising Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
I can't quite make it out, but it looks like there might be two tiny lateral stays at the very bottom of the mast on the factory boat . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: Honshells To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: Mast Raising Clarence, Here's the link to page 4 of the M17 photos . . . It shows the factory mast-raising system: No details or text, but someone who knows what they're looking at (which doesn't include me :-) ) might get the general idea . . . --Craig http://www.montgomeryboats.com/m17photo4.html ----- Original Message ----- From: n9ca To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 1:16 PM Subject: Mast Raising Craig, The only mast raising system I saw was for the new M-23, which has a different tabernacle configuration than the M-17. Did I miss something? Clarence ----- Original Message ----- From: Honshells To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: Mast Raising The Nor'Sea website, www.montgomeryboats.com, has pics of a mast-raising system they set up for a new buyer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Egatempo@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Mast Raising Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails.
Thanks, I missed that. However, the arrangement utilizing the 6 ft. 2X4 mounted perpendicular to the mast considerably reduces the lateral load on the fitting at the base of the mast, which is considerable when the angle made by the mast and forestay is small. That is, if the same rules of mechanics statics that I was exposed to about 50 years ago still apply. LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: Honshells To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: M_Boats: Mast Raising Clarence, Here's the link to page 4 of the M17 photos . . . It shows the factory mast-raising system: No details or text, but someone who knows what they're looking at (which doesn't include me :-) ) might get the general idea . . . --Craig http://www.montgomeryboats.com/m17photo4.html ----- Original Message ----- From: n9ca To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 1:16 PM Subject: Mast Raising Craig, The only mast raising system I saw was for the new M-23, which has a different tabernacle configuration than the M-17. Did I miss something? Clarence ----- Original Message ----- From: Honshells To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:41 PM Subject: Mast Raising The Nor'Sea website, www.montgomeryboats.com, has pics of a mast-raising system they set up for a new buyer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Egatempo@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Mast Raising Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Hi George Being 65 myself I can relate to your question about raising the mast on a M17. I raise and lower the mast by myself, I'm probably not the first person to use this system, others may have different versions but this works for me. The only stays I detach is the foward stay, all others remain attached. After the mast has been positioned in the base bracket and "pinned". 1. Fasten a block on the bow of the boat. 2. Cleat the jib halyard to the mast 3. Run the jib halyard thru the block on the bow. 4. Hold the free end of the jib halyard loosly in either hand. 5. Standing in the cockpit (assuming you have already "pinned" the mast in the bracket) put the mast on your shoulder and pick it up as high as you can as you walk foward. 6. When you have raised the mast as high as you can reach, (about 30 or 40 degrees) pull on the line in your hand and the mast will go on up. 7. When the mast is vertical, cleat the line to anything handy, go around to the bow and secure the foward stay. 8. Lowering is reverse procedure. As always you need to make sure the lines and shrouds go up without a tangle, otherwise you have to lower it and untangle them. Always make sure the block is securely fastenedat the bow, and the jib halyard is secure before pulling on it. Hope this helps Wayne M17 "Intrepid" ----- Original Message ----- From: Egatempo@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 9:12 AM Subject: M_Boats: Mast Raising Being 70+ I look for the help I can get when doing something physical. I am sure that I read some where in the files about an optional mast raising rig. Has any one used it? If so does it work? Has any one developed there own system that works for them? Sure am glad that you all are out there to help? George Boatless (but not for long) We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust our sails. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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