Ronnie has a valid point. What you might consider, instead of extensive mods to your boat, is to make a special "galley box" that you could place wherever you like...on a berth, in the cockpit, ashore. It could contain at least parts of your galley such as the stove and fuel and some other storage. Spices, utensils, pots & pans? I've found no use for a sink aboard other than dry storage. I removed the thru-hull on Busca (had it done, actually) and just use the sink to keep camera, etc in. I do my dishes in a pan. Here is a recipe I concocted one evening while at anchor aboard Busca... Fisherman's Hard Luck Dinner serves one . one bag of boil-in-bag rice . one tomato . one apple . one banana pepper (sweet to slightly warm) . 4-6 oz baby Swiss cheese (I'll bet Cheddar would be good too) . half teaspoon cinnamon (or to suit) . half teaspoon ground ginger (or to suit...grated fresh would be even better) . dash salt (optional) dice up the veggies/fruit and the cheese (or grate it) into a bowl boil the bag of rice pour the hot rice over the other ingredients, stir a bit enjoy! It is a very easy, light, yet tasty meal that almost doesn't make a mess.

-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ronnie Keeler Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 6:51 PM To: Montgomery boats mailing list Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17 interior layouts

Arnold,

I have a galley model (1974) M17 and find that it crowds the interior. Several years ago, I had a Slipper 17 which had no galley so I built a "Dutch Galley" for it. It consisted of a large box with a dishpan sink, a place for a one burner stove and storage for cookware. Most of the time, I used the galley under the awning in the cockpit and stowed it away in chocks across the forepeak behind the head. In incliment weather, I set the galley box on one of the quarter berths and sat on the ice chest/cockpit step to cook. I had a dodger on the main hatch which gave plenty of sitting headroom for cooking and eating.

Whitebeard

M17 #14, Griselda.

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To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com From: afsharpe@mac.com Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:28:39 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: M-17 interior layouts

Monty Sailors!!!

I am the happy owner of M-17 "Little Breeze" for the last 3 years. She is a 1977 model, hull #265 and the interior layout has quarter berths to port and starboard. When spending overnight aboard I find food prep. difficult and am considering converting the port Quarter berth to a little galley of sorts. I have been told that some early Montys were build that way. If anyone out there with a M-17 with a galley (small is it may be) would be so kind as to take a picture or two I would be most appreciative. Regards..Arnold Sharpe

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Robbin, I have M-17 "Little Breeze which I bought 3 years ago, it is a 1977 model. When I got it i was concerned with the cockpit drain configuration because every boat I have had (many over the years) have had sea cocks for any below water line thru-hulls. That said, the Monty presented several challenges because of access to the fittings. My findings were that the fitting in the cockpit floor was bronze (it looked original). the hose was heavy rubber and the thru hull was bronze but NO sea-cock was present. I ended up removing everything except the cockpit floor drain fitting and replacing all with new hose and a bronze sea cock and a new bronze thru hull....this was not an easy job because this old guys body does not bend and contort the way it used to. While i can't say with any authority (perhaps Jerry can comment on this) that some Monty's used aluminum below the water line I would strongly doubt it and would never myself use or trust it. Only bronze, SS, or approved fiber reinforced plastic should be used. If it were me, I would inspect the thru-hull carefully to determine material and replace accordingly, especially for use in a saltwater environment. Regards Arnold On Apr 10, 2009, at 4:46 AM, robbin roddewig wrote:

Sailors, My M-17 had the cockpit drain exiting the hull through a radiator hose to what I think I have read is an aluminum through hull pipe that it molded into the hull beneath the water line. I have been reading all of Don Casey's books lately and took note of his advice that all through hull holes have sea cocks. I know that I have looked at one M-17 on the photo site that has had corrosion problems and replaced the aluminum(?) pipe but I do not know the longevity of this hole in the hull. I have one of the very early M-17's vintage 1975. My question is how much should I be worried about this pipe/through hull arrangement? I keep my boat in the water (salt water) during the season and would hate to have it sink. A better question is has anyone replaced the pipe with a more traditional through hull and sea cock valve?

Thanks Robbin Hull #056 Miss Take, sailing out of Breezy Point MD PS having my steel board blasted this week and coated with 2000e. Just finished my last ski trip so it should be sailing season now, right?

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