Boltropes on the best setups still don't let the sail flake down and furl on the boom without falling out of the slot and extra handling to contain the sail. Usually a boltrope has to be pulled down even in dead calm winds. A good slug setup will let the sail fall down on itself when the halyard is let go...requiring minimal crew power to get the sail down. While you are working with a boltrope to get the sail down I will have a slugged sail already down and furled on the boom. Safety wise slugs rarely get snagged or break...in my experience owning several boats with boltropes, they are more critical to jamming than slugs. One of the first things I do on boats with boltropes is change to slugs. Can you tell, I REALLY don't like boltropes? Peace.
I too have had both and my new sails will definitely be slugged. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Wcpritchett@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:17 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Slugs vs Bolt Rope Boltropes on the best setups still don't let the sail flake down and furl on the boom without falling out of the slot and extra handling to contain the sail. Usually a boltrope has to be pulled down even in dead calm winds. A good slug setup will let the sail fall down on itself when the halyard is let go...requiring minimal crew power to get the sail down. While you are working with a boltrope to get the sail down I will have a slugged sail already down and furled on the boom. Safety wise slugs rarely get snagged or break...in my experience owning several boats with boltropes, they are more critical to jamming than slugs. One of the first things I do on boats with boltropes is change to slugs. Can you tell, I REALLY don't like boltropes? Peace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Hey Gilbert.....slugs are no problem, just let me know what size/type you want ......I would suggest though, a smaller rope in the luff and foot, just for durability.....3/16 to 1/4 is plenty. Bill Tosh T C Boats.com B & L Associated Industries 2846 CR 2206 Rusk TX. 75785 903-743-5555 http://www.tcboats.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Gilbert Landin To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Slugs vs Bolt Rope I too have had both and my new sails will definitely be slugged. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Wcpritchett@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:17 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Slugs vs Bolt Rope Boltropes on the best setups still don't let the sail flake down and furl on the boom without falling out of the slot and extra handling to contain the sail. Usually a boltrope has to be pulled down even in dead calm winds. A good slug setup will let the sail fall down on itself when the halyard is let go...requiring minimal crew power to get the sail down. While you are working with a boltrope to get the sail down I will have a slugged sail already down and furled on the boom. Safety wise slugs rarely get snagged or break...in my experience owning several boats with boltropes, they are more critical to jamming than slugs. One of the first things I do on boats with boltropes is change to slugs. Can you tell, I REALLY don't like boltropes? Peace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Thanks bill, I will be getting out the sail to look it over Sunday, satyrday I spent getting out the keel...feel like I have been run over by a truck and dragged for 2 blocks. Gilbert Landin 734 Snug Harbor Corpus Christi, Texas 78402 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.c om] On Behalf Of Bill Tosh Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:53 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Slugs vs Bolt Rope Hey Gilbert.....slugs are no problem, just let me know what size/type you want ......I would suggest though, a smaller rope in the luff and foot, just for durability.....3/16 to 1/4 is plenty. Bill Tosh T C Boats.com B & L Associated Industries 2846 CR 2206 Rusk TX. 75785 903-743-5555 http://www.tcboats.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Gilbert Landin To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Slugs vs Bolt Rope I too have had both and my new sails will definitely be slugged. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.c om] On Behalf Of Wcpritchett@aol.com Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:17 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Slugs vs Bolt Rope Boltropes on the best setups still don't let the sail flake down and furl on the boom without falling out of the slot and extra handling to contain the sail. Usually a boltrope has to be pulled down even in dead calm winds. A good slug setup will let the sail fall down on itself when the halyard is let go...requiring minimal crew power to get the sail down. While you are working with a boltrope to get the sail down I will have a slugged sail already down and furled on the boom. Safety wise slugs rarely get snagged or break...in my experience owning several boats with boltropes, they are more critical to jamming than slugs. One of the first things I do on boats with boltropes is change to slugs. Can you tell, I REALLY don't like boltropes? Peace. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Always a different opinion. I have owned several boats up to 25 ft and dislike sail slugs on the boats that had them. The may not have been set up correctly but they invaribly jamb when raising the sail and bunch up the sail above the boom when lowering. I dislike sail slugs. I would challenge anyone to contest on sailraising, lowering and tying off the main to the boom on my boltrope M15. In my experience the boltrope is faster and neater. Bolt ropes make reefing much neater and easier around the boom/mast area. Yes the main does not always fall down when released but it is very simple to pull it down without going on deck. I do not flake the sails on the boom. When I drop the sail I keep the last 5 inchs of the main in the sail track, find the mid point of the luff and roll the doubled sail into a tube and tie it off on the boom. This is neat, fast and less windage at anchor. Thanks Doug Kelch --- Wcpritchett@aol.com wrote:
Boltropes on the best setups still don't let the sail flake down and furl on the boom without falling out of the slot and extra handling to contain the sail. Usually a boltrope has to be pulled down even in dead calm winds. A good slug setup will let the sail fall down on itself when the halyard is let go...requiring minimal crew power to get the sail down. While you are working with a boltrope to get the sail down I will have a slugged sail already down and furled on the boom. Safety wise slugs rarely get snagged or break...in my experience owning several boats with boltropes, they are more critical to jamming than slugs. One of the first things I do on boats with boltropes is change to slugs. Can you tell, I REALLY don't like boltropes?
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When you guys are talking about using a teflon or dry lube of some sort on track and slug (or bolt rope) ....what product exactly are you referring to? In my shop I use a dry lube in an aerosol can called Top Cote made by Bostik, it might do the trick I suppose. Though it is meant to coat machine surfaces and be used indoors etc. Is there something made just for sail track? Tim D. M17 #369 'Puff' Kelowna BC
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