Hello, I'm brand new to this forum, I really admire Montgomerys, and I'm wondering if an M15 could be kept on a beach that dries completely at low tide? Our waterfront home on Puget Sound has a great place to dock a boat, but only one that can sit on its hull when the tide goes out, which is twice daily? It's a very calm, protected inlet with no wave action. Would an M15 work in such a place? Thanks for your replies! Bruce W Sent from my iPhone
Bruce: The fixed shoal keel would be a problem ... the boat would not sit flat. Picture of an M15 doing this in south Puget Sound - https://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/imageviewer.php?objectid=37&ob... https://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/imageviewer.php?objectid=37&ob... Sage 15s and SageCats don't have shoal keels and are designed 'to sit on the mud'. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Bruce Wulkan <btwulkan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, I'm brand new to this forum, I really admire Montgomerys, and I'm wondering if an M15 could be kept on a beach that dries completely at low tide? Our waterfront home on Puget Sound has a great place to dock a boat, but only one that can sit on its hull when the tide goes out, which is twice daily? It's a very calm, protected inlet with no wave action.
Would an M15 work in such a place?
Thanks for your replies! Bruce W
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Thanks for the reply, Dave. I understand that with the shoal keel the boat wouldn't sit flat, it would lean somewhat, and boat weight would be distributed on the keel and hull. Is that a problem? Would that lead to issues in future, and therefore is it not recommended? Also, is there a different configuration of keels for the Sage boats? The 15 and 17 have pretty different drafts. Last, is it tough to find used Sages since they're so new? Bruce W Gig Harbor
On Sep 12, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Bruce:
The fixed shoal keel would be a problem ... the boat would not sit flat. Picture of an M15 doing this in south Puget Sound -
https://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/imageviewer.php?objectid=37&ob...
https://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/imageviewer.php?objectid=37&ob...
Sage 15s and SageCats don't have shoal keels and are designed 'to sit on the mud'.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Bruce Wulkan <btwulkan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, I'm brand new to this forum, I really admire Montgomerys, and I'm wondering if an M15 could be kept on a beach that dries completely at low tide? Our waterfront home on Puget Sound has a great place to dock a boat, but only one that can sit on its hull when the tide goes out, which is twice daily? It's a very calm, protected inlet with no wave action.
Would an M15 work in such a place?
Thanks for your replies! Bruce W
Sent from my iPhone
There are reasons, muddy reasons, why those of us who sail in South Puget Sound carry and read charts and tide tables. Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Scobie Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:50 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Keep on a beach? Bruce: The fixed shoal keel would be a problem ... the boat would not sit flat. Picture of an M15 doing this in south Puget Sound - https://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/imageviewer.php?objectid=37&ob... https://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/imageviewer.php?objectid=37&ob... Sage 15s and SageCats don't have shoal keels and are designed 'to sit on the mud'. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Bruce Wulkan <btwulkan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, I'm brand new to this forum, I really admire Montgomerys, and I'm wondering if an M15 could be kept on a beach that dries completely at low tide? Our waterfront home on Puget Sound has a great place to dock a boat, but only one that can sit on its hull when the tide goes out, which is twice daily? It's a very calm, protected inlet with no wave action.
Would an M15 work in such a place?
Thanks for your replies! Bruce W
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Hi Bruce... I don't think leaning the boat is going to hurt anything. I would be concerned with gravel and rocks. We had a customer who kept his 15 on a ball in Glen Cove. Twice a day the boat sat down in mostly sand. Be well Bob Montgomery Boats 949-489-8227 Sent from my iPad
On Sep 12, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@Q.com> wrote:
There are reasons, muddy reasons, why those of us who sail in South Puget Sound carry and read charts and tide tables. Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: Dave Scobie Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:50 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Keep on a beach?
Bruce:
The fixed shoal keel would be a problem ... the boat would not sit flat. Picture of an M15 doing this in south Puget Sound -
https://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/imageviewer.php?objectid=37&ob...
https://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/General/imageviewer.php?objectid=37&ob...
Sage 15s and SageCats don't have shoal keels and are designed 'to sit on the mud'.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Bruce Wulkan <btwulkan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, I'm brand new to this forum, I really admire Montgomerys, and I'm wondering if an M15 could be kept on a beach that dries completely at low tide? Our waterfront home on Puget Sound has a great place to dock a boat, but only one that can sit on its hull when the tide goes out, which is twice daily? It's a very calm, protected inlet with no wave action.
Would an M15 work in such a place?
Thanks for your replies! Bruce W
Sent from my iPhone
I unexpectedly was high and dry in my M15 at a shallow dock, while sleeping aboard in the middle of the night. I ended up running a dockline to a piling to center the boat upright balanced on the keel- it didn't do any damage but we were in soft sand. Google "beaching legs" for an excellent solution people often use in shallow areas with a large tidal swing. It should be possible to build some for the M15. Sincerely, Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Wulkan" <btwulkan@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:08:42 PM Subject: M_Boats: Keep on a beach? Hello, I'm brand new to this forum, I really admire Montgomerys, and I'm wondering if an M15 could be kept on a beach that dries completely at low tide? Our waterfront home on Puget Sound has a great place to dock a boat, but only one that can sit on its hull when the tide goes out, which is twice daily? It's a very calm, protected inlet with no wave action. Would an M15 work in such a place? Thanks for your replies! Bruce W Sent from my iPhone
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