I am a do- it- yourselfer most of the time. Ive got my Monty-17 on the trailer and now am trying to figure a way to raise ii enough to unstick and drop the center board. I plan on doing the full sandblasting, coating, and epoxy of the trunk and board. I have a few hair-brained ideas on how to lift the boat enough but am interested to hear if any one else has a sure fire way before I get in more trouble than my wife might like! Dik Lang Sweet Pea M-17 _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental
Hello Mr.Lang You may want to make things really easy on yourself by taking the boat to a yard and using their hoist. They usually will have all the necessary tools at hand to make quick work of the task. Also this method is sure to maintain that all to important household harmony I am currently awaiting an estimate on the fabrication of a new stainless steel centerboard. I have a 1977 M17 Flushdeck. The previous owner did little to protect this vital part of the boat. the boat was slipped in saltwater for well over five years resulting in a heavily corroded centerboard. Prone to sticking and really slowed the boat down. The board was pulled and sandblasted revealing what looks life the surface of Mars. I have thought of using an adhesive epoxy to fill an fair the board. then seal with a layer of glass. But I'll wait till the estimate arrives to see if it's worth the trouble. Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: dik lang To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: M_Boats: 17 center board I am a do- it- yourselfer most of the time. Ive got my Monty-17 on the trailer and now am trying to figure a way to raise ii enough to unstick and drop the center board. I plan on doing the full sandblasting, coating, and epoxy of the trunk and board. I have a few hair-brained ideas on how to lift the boat enough but am interested to hear if any one else has a sure fire way before I get in more trouble than my wife might like! Dik Lang Sweet Pea M-17 _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Mark, I have a '76 M-17 with the same problem I would be interested in the quote you get, as I was thinking of doing the same. Maybe they will cut a deal for two or three?! Doug M-17 "Aegir" ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Escovedo To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 17 center board Hello Mr.Lang You may want to make things really easy on yourself by taking the boat to a yard and using their hoist. They usually will have all the necessary tools at hand to make quick work of the task. Also this method is sure to maintain that all to important household harmony I am currently awaiting an estimate on the fabrication of a new stainless steel centerboard. I have a 1977 M17 Flushdeck. The previous owner did little to protect this vital part of the boat. the boat was slipped in saltwater for well over five years resulting in a heavily corroded centerboard. Prone to sticking and really slowed the boat down. The board was pulled and sandblasted revealing what looks life the surface of Mars. I have thought of using an adhesive epoxy to fill an fair the board. then seal with a layer of glass. But I'll wait till the estimate arrives to see if it's worth the trouble. Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: dik lang To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: M_Boats: 17 center board I am a do- it- yourselfer most of the time. Ive got my Monty-17 on the trailer and now am trying to figure a way to raise ii enough to unstick and drop the center board. I plan on doing the full sandblasting, coating, and epoxy of the trunk and board. I have a few hair-brained ideas on how to lift the boat enough but am interested to hear if any one else has a sure fire way before I get in more trouble than my wife might like! Dik Lang Sweet Pea M-17 _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Hello, As soon as I receive the estimate out I'll be sure to share the information. My only concern is whether the geometry of the centerboards are consistent across model years. Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Peterson To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 17 center board Mark, I have a '76 M-17 with the same problem I would be interested in the quote you get, as I was thinking of doing the same. Maybe they will cut a deal for two or three?! Doug M-17 "Aegir" ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Escovedo To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 17 center board Hello Mr.Lang You may want to make things really easy on yourself by taking the boat to a yard and using their hoist. They usually will have all the necessary tools at hand to make quick work of the task. Also this method is sure to maintain that all to important household harmony I am currently awaiting an estimate on the fabrication of a new stainless steel centerboard. I have a 1977 M17 Flushdeck. The previous owner did little to protect this vital part of the boat. the boat was slipped in saltwater for well over five years resulting in a heavily corroded centerboard. Prone to sticking and really slowed the boat down. The board was pulled and sandblasted revealing what looks life the surface of Mars. I have thought of using an adhesive epoxy to fill an fair the board. then seal with a layer of glass. But I'll wait till the estimate arrives to see if it's worth the trouble. Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: dik lang To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: M_Boats: 17 center board I am a do- it- yourselfer most of the time. Ive got my Monty-17 on the trailer and now am trying to figure a way to raise ii enough to unstick and drop the center board. I plan on doing the full sandblasting, coating, and epoxy of the trunk and board. I have a few hair-brained ideas on how to lift the boat enough but am interested to hear if any one else has a sure fire way before I get in more trouble than my wife might like! Dik Lang Sweet Pea M-17 _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
I had the same idea. I think my estimate came in around $1,000 for stainless. I then got the bright idea of having one cast in bronze. I had no luck finding anyone who could do a bronze casting that large.....at any price. Bob was going to do the centerboard for the new M23 in bronze. Wonder if he ever found anyone to do it? There is a bit of difference between the early cast CB¹s, and later ones. Howard M17 #278 Audasea On 9/2/03 5:48 PM, "Mark Escovedo" <m_escovedo@msn.com> wrote:
Hello,
As soon as I receive the estimate out I'll be sure to share the information. My only concern is whether the geometry of the centerboards are consistent across model years.
Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory
----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Peterson <mailto:monk2001@msn.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 17 center board
Mark, I have a '76 M-17 with the same problem I would be interested in the quote you get, as I was thinking of doing the same. Maybe they will cut a deal for two or three?! Doug M-17 "Aegir"
----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Escovedo <mailto:m_escovedo@msn.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 17 center board
Hello Mr.Lang
You may want to make things really easy on yourself by taking the boat to a yard and using their hoist. They usually will have all the necessary tools at hand to make quick work of the task. Also this method is sure to maintain that all to important household harmony
I am currently awaiting an estimate on the fabrication of a new stainless steel centerboard. I have a 1977 M17 Flushdeck. The previous owner did little to protect this vital part of the boat. the boat was slipped in saltwater for well over five years resulting in a heavily corroded centerboard. Prone to sticking and really slowed the boat down. The board was pulled and sandblasted revealing what looks life the surface of Mars. I have thought of using an adhesive epoxy to fill an fair the board. then seal with a layer of glass. But I'll wait till the estimate arrives to see if it's worth the trouble.
Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory
----- Original Message ----- From: dik lang <mailto:diklang32@hotmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: M_Boats: 17 center board
I am a do- it- yourselfer most of the time. Ive got my Monty-17 on the trailer and now am trying to figure a way to raise ii enough to unstick and drop the center board. I plan on doing the full sandblasting, coating, and epoxy of the trunk and board. I have a few hair-brained ideas on how to lift the boat enough but am interested to hear if any one else has a sure fire way before I get in more trouble than my wife might like!
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Re: M_Boats: 17 center boardRoger Winiarski, www.bristolbronze.com, would cast an M17 board in bronze. However, I doubt it would be cost-effective. I also had a machine-shop offer to cut one from naval bronze. ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard Audsley To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: 17 center board I had the same idea. I think my estimate came in around $1,000 for stainless. I then got the bright idea of having one cast in bronze. I had no luck finding anyone who could do a bronze casting that large.....at any price. Bob was going to do the centerboard for the new M23 in bronze. Wonder if he ever found anyone to do it? There is a bit of difference between the early cast CB's, and later ones. Howard M17 #278 Audasea On 9/2/03 5:48 PM, "Mark Escovedo" <m_escovedo@msn.com> wrote: Hello, As soon as I receive the estimate out I'll be sure to share the information. My only concern is whether the geometry of the centerboards are consistent across model years. Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Peterson <mailto:monk2001@msn.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: 17 center board Mark, I have a '76 M-17 with the same problem I would be interested in the quote you get, as I was thinking of doing the same. Maybe they will cut a deal for two or three?! Doug M-17 "Aegir" ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Escovedo <mailto:m_escovedo@msn.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: 17 center board Hello Mr.Lang You may want to make things really easy on yourself by taking the boat to a yard and using their hoist. They usually will have all the necessary tools at hand to make quick work of the task. Also this method is sure to maintain that all to important household harmony I am currently awaiting an estimate on the fabrication of a new stainless steel centerboard. I have a 1977 M17 Flushdeck. The previous owner did little to protect this vital part of the boat. the boat was slipped in saltwater for well over five years resulting in a heavily corroded centerboard. Prone to sticking and really slowed the boat down. The board was pulled and sandblasted revealing what looks life the surface of Mars. I have thought of using an adhesive epoxy to fill an fair the board. then seal with a layer of glass. But I'll wait till the estimate arrives to see if it's worth the trouble. Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: dik lang <mailto:diklang32@hotmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: 17 center board I am a do- it- yourselfer most of the time. Ive got my Monty-17 on the trailer and now am trying to figure a way to raise ii enough to unstick and drop the center board. I plan on doing the full sandblasting, coating, and epoxy of the trunk and board. I have a few hair-brained ideas on how to lift the boat enough but am interested to hear if any one else has a sure fire way before I get in more trouble than my wife might like! Dik Lang Sweet Pea M-17
Re: M_Boats: 17 center board Ouch!! Hope Mark gets a more doable quote. I'll chech with a foundery here in Portland and see if a bronze CB is a project they would do reasonably. Doug #208 Aegir ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard Audsley To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 17 center board I had the same idea. I think my estimate came in around $1,000 for stainless. I then got the bright idea of having one cast in bronze. I had no luck finding anyone who could do a bronze casting that large.....at any price. Bob was going to do the centerboard for the new M23 in bronze. Wonder if he ever found anyone to do it? There is a bit of difference between the early cast CB's, and later ones. Howard M17 #278 Audasea On 9/2/03 5:48 PM, "Mark Escovedo" <m_escovedo@msn.com> wrote: Hello, As soon as I receive the estimate out I'll be sure to share the information. My only concern is whether the geometry of the centerboards are consistent across model years. Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas Peterson <mailto:monk2001@msn.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 17 center board Mark, I have a '76 M-17 with the same problem I would be interested in the quote you get, as I was thinking of doing the same. Maybe they will cut a deal for two or three?! Doug M-17 "Aegir" ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Escovedo <mailto:m_escovedo@msn.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: 17 center board Hello Mr.Lang You may want to make things really easy on yourself by taking the boat to a yard and using their hoist. They usually will have all the necessary tools at hand to make quick work of the task. Also this method is sure to maintain that all to important household harmony I am currently awaiting an estimate on the fabrication of a new stainless steel centerboard. I have a 1977 M17 Flushdeck. The previous owner did little to protect this vital part of the boat. the boat was slipped in saltwater for well over five years resulting in a heavily corroded centerboard. Prone to sticking and really slowed the boat down. The board was pulled and sandblasted revealing what looks life the surface of Mars. I have thought of using an adhesive epoxy to fill an fair the board. then seal with a layer of glass. But I'll wait till the estimate arrives to see if it's worth the trouble. Mark Escovedo M-17 F/D Chunky Dory ----- Original Message ----- From: dik lang <mailto:diklang32@hotmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: M_Boats: 17 center board I am a do- it- yourselfer most of the time. Ive got my Monty-17 on the trailer and now am trying to figure a way to raise ii enough to unstick and drop the center board. I plan on doing the full sandblasting, coating, and epoxy of the trunk and board. I have a few hair-brained ideas on how to lift the boat enough but am interested to hear if any one else has a sure fire way before I get in more trouble than my wife might like! Dik Lang Sweet Pea M-17 _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats -------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Hi, Dik No doubt, the easiest, safest, and quickest way to go about it is as Mark suggested: a lift. However, if you are bound and determined to do it the hard way (time-consuming, laborious, and expensive if you don't already have the materials at hand) I've used a pair of small bottle jacks, lots of blocks of wood, some plywood, and cinder blocks. Gotta be especially careful with cinder blocks, using plywood to distribute the load over the *edges*, like on a basement. Also, the boat will be raised high enough that you need to brace against rolling to the side. Fortunately, the skeg is horizontal and the boat can be raised with it (being careful to *distribute* the load over a big area). Supporting from the skeg makes it much more stable than if jacking from the bottom of the keel because it is higher. Tod -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of dik lang Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:12 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: 17 center board I am a do- it- yourselfer most of the time. Ive got my Monty-17 on the trailer and now am trying to figure a way to raise ii enough to unstick and drop the center board. I plan on doing the full sandblasting, coating, and epoxy of the trunk and board. I have a few hair-brained ideas on how to lift the boat enough but am interested to hear if any one else has a sure fire way before I get in more trouble than my wife might like! Dik Lang Sweet Pea M-17 _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Hello Dik, We took our M17 and hung it from the rafters in the shop using nylon web holddowns and some old wheels nested and tackwelded together. Blocked up the trailer about 15 inches using a floor jack, hooked into the aluminum toe rail, dropped and remove the trailer, slide the stands under the keel and nail/bolt some "wishbone struts" from the chainplates to the rafters so she wil not tip. Bottom PREP is the worst part, I think professional soda blasting might be the best way to go- the rolling is easy. There must be some clever boater our there who could write instructions for an NC mill to machine a bronze CB out of flat stock using the latest NACA foils. I single handed out of Richmond a ways the other day, first attempt at single handing in fact, it went well taking one turn around the opposite winch then behind [the large end] of the jamb cleat then across the cock pit to the unused cleat on the high side- I need more practice at switching te sheets and tiller behind my back! Just two more trips to the Bay before pullout- boohoo. Ron and Cathryn Goodspeed M17 "hula pie" #025
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