In a message dated 3/23/2005 5:08:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, wesi@comcast.net writes: Anyone interested in this ladder, I checked with the Potter folks and the ladder is $160, stainless steel, four steps, 34" from top to bottom step. Hi Ken, I ordered the 4-step Windline ladder today from IM (Potter factory) at $160.00. At first thought it was a bit pricy. However the three step at West Marine is $140.00. Doesn't really matter as the money spent isn't real money... it's boat bucks and therefore doesn't count. My chief advisor, Maria Jorge assures me it fits and has pictures of the installation at << http://sailing.gravesfam.us/default.aspx >> that's Randy Graves site with lots of great photos. Bill M-17 #496 "Tipperary" San Francisco