I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined? Jazz
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove. Bob Sent from my iPad
On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits. Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK. cheers, John S. On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
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On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz
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Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
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On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz
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You might have trouble getting it to dump out. I know a guy who has one of those stoves and he carries it upside down, attached to the bottom of one of his hatch covers, when he's not using it, and the alchohol does not leak out at all. There is some sort of absorbent material inside that holds the fuel in suspension. On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
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On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz
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If it will not pour out on its own, you could probably flush it with acetone. I am pretty sure that acetone will mix with mineral spirits. It also evaporates very rapidly afterwards. I don't know what the material inside the canister is. It is probably something like rock wool. If it is plastic, acetone may hurt it. Mete
On Mar 11, 2016, at 1:18 AM, Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
You might have trouble getting it to dump out. I know a guy who has one of those stoves and he carries it upside down, attached to the bottom of one of his hatch covers, when he's not using it, and the alchohol does not leak out at all. There is some sort of absorbent material inside that holds the fuel in suspension.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz
On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
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On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design
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Also, I believe the jets on stoves are sized to the fuel they are designed to burn. Could be a problem there too. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2115-d> This email is safe. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2115-d> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
You might have trouble getting it to dump out. I know a guy who has one of those stoves and he carries it upside down, attached to the bottom of one of his hatch covers, when he's not using it, and the alchohol does not leak out at all. There is some sort of absorbent material inside that holds the fuel in suspension.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
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On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of
the
alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz
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There are not jets. It just has a "flume" type slider to cover or uncover more of the mat. Really simple. And it didn't dump. So I did what ever 10 year old would, I lit it on fire. It's burning a bit smoky on the driveway but appears all is well. Jazz On Mar 11, 2016 8:36 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, I believe the jets on stoves are sized to the fuel they are designed to burn. Could be a problem there too.
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
You might have trouble getting it to dump out. I know a guy who has one of those stoves and he carries it upside down, attached to the bottom of one of his hatch covers, when he's not using it, and the alchohol does not leak out at all. There is some sort of absorbent material inside that holds the fuel in suspension.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of
the
alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz
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On 3/11/2016 10:34 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: Hi Tom, We had a PRIMUS two burner stove in our big boat. It was designed to work with either kerosene or alcohol. You had to change the jets in the burners to change from alcohol to kerosene. (The hole in the kerosene jet was much smaller than the one for alcohol) The alcohol fueled stove was much slower to heat a pot of water (there are fewer Btu's in alcohol vs. kerosene) but the Admirable preferred using the alcohol because it didn't smell if you spilled some on the galley counter. Kerosene, of course, left a very definite smell if you inadvertently spilled some while refueling. You had to preheat the PRIMUS burners by putting alcohol in the cups under the burner. The major problem with that was overfilling - or spilling some due to a sudden wave action, and then when you lit the burner to preheat it, you had a puddle of pale blue flames on he counter top of the galley that were barely visible if the sun was shining into the cabin. My solution to that problem was to ask my friends at the German Aircraft Engine Company to have their apprentice shop make me a S/S pan that fitted under the stove. The pan kept the alcohol spills contained; and also protected the top of the ice box from the radiated heat from the burners when the stove was in use. Connie
Also, I believe the jets on stoves are sized to the fuel they are designed to burn. Could be a problem there too.
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
You might have trouble getting it to dump out. I know a guy who has one of those stoves and he carries it upside down, attached to the bottom of one of his hatch covers, when he's not using it, and the alchohol does not leak out at all. There is some sort of absorbent material inside that holds the fuel in suspension.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Hi Connie, Yeah, nothing like liquid fuels on a rocking boat. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2115-d> This email is safe. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2115-d> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/11/2016 10:34 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
Hi Tom,
We had a PRIMUS two burner stove in our big boat. It was designed to work with either kerosene or alcohol. You had to change the jets in the burners to change from alcohol to kerosene. (The hole in the kerosene jet was much smaller than the one for alcohol)
The alcohol fueled stove was much slower to heat a pot of water (there are fewer Btu's in alcohol vs. kerosene) but the Admirable preferred using the alcohol because it didn't smell if you spilled some on the galley counter.
Kerosene, of course, left a very definite smell if you inadvertently spilled some while refueling.
You had to preheat the PRIMUS burners by putting alcohol in the cups under the burner. The major problem with that was overfilling - or spilling some due to a sudden wave action, and then when you lit the burner to preheat it, you had a puddle of pale blue flames on he counter top of the galley that were barely visible if the sun was shining into the cabin.
My solution to that problem was to ask my friends at the German Aircraft Engine Company to have their apprentice shop make me a S/S pan that fitted under the stove.
The pan kept the alcohol spills contained; and also protected the top of the ice box from the radiated heat from the burners when the stove was in use.
Connie
Also, I believe the jets on stoves are sized to the fuel they are designed to burn. Could be a problem there too.
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
You might have trouble getting it to dump out. I know a guy who has one of
those stoves and he carries it upside down, attached to the bottom of one of his hatch covers, when he's not using it, and the alchohol does not leak out at all. There is some sort of absorbent material inside that holds the fuel in suspension.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of
container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged
or
dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol
and
test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for
an
alcohol stove.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
> I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of > the
alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
> > Jazz > > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design
- Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Most alcohol stoves don't use "jets" like in gas/kerosene stoves - the primus and a few other multi-fuel stoves being exceptions. For a lightweight dead simple no moving parts way cheaper than "marine" alcohol stove, I recommend the Trangia alcohol stoves. There's a variety of kits (pots, burner holder/windscreen, burner) available, or one can just get the burner and a simple holder and use other pots/pans. Or craft a custom holder for your particular Monty's galley. One source in the USA is Piragis' Boundary Waters catalgo (canoe outfitter): https://www.boundarywaterscatalog.com/all-products/browse/keyword/trangia A net search for trangia stove will get you more sources... I have used these for years for most all my outdoor adventures (backpacking, canoe tripping, kayak camping, car camping etc.). Just so dead simple and fool-proof (it might even work with paint thinner in the burner... ;-). cheers, John S. On 03/11/2016 09:26 AM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 3/11/2016 10:34 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
Hi Tom,
We had a PRIMUS two burner stove in our big boat. It was designed to work with either kerosene or alcohol. You had to change the jets in the burners to change from alcohol to kerosene. (The hole in the kerosene jet was much smaller than the one for alcohol)
The alcohol fueled stove was much slower to heat a pot of water (there are fewer Btu's in alcohol vs. kerosene) but the Admirable preferred using the alcohol because it didn't smell if you spilled some on the galley counter.
Kerosene, of course, left a very definite smell if you inadvertently spilled some while refueling.
You had to preheat the PRIMUS burners by putting alcohol in the cups under the burner. The major problem with that was overfilling - or spilling some due to a sudden wave action, and then when you lit the burner to preheat it, you had a puddle of pale blue flames on he counter top of the galley that were barely visible if the sun was shining into the cabin.
My solution to that problem was to ask my friends at the German Aircraft Engine Company to have their apprentice shop make me a S/S pan that fitted under the stove.
The pan kept the alcohol spills contained; and also protected the top of the ice box from the radiated heat from the burners when the stove was in use.
Connie
Also, I believe the jets on stoves are sized to the fuel they are designed to burn. Could be a problem there too.
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
You might have trouble getting it to dump out. I know a guy who has one of those stoves and he carries it upside down, attached to the bottom of one of his hatch covers, when he's not using it, and the alchohol does not leak out at all. There is some sort of absorbent material inside that holds the fuel in suspension.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote: > I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the > alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined? > > Jazz >
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It's nice to have friends like that, isn't it, Connie? :-) ----- John Tyner M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" On 03-11-2016 12:26 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 3/11/2016 10:34 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
Hi Tom,
We had a PRIMUS two burner stove in our big boat. It was designed to work with either kerosene or alcohol. You had to change the jets in the burners to change from alcohol to kerosene. (The hole in the kerosene jet was much smaller than the one for alcohol)
The alcohol fueled stove was much slower to heat a pot of water (there are fewer Btu's in alcohol vs. kerosene) but the Admirable preferred using the alcohol because it didn't smell if you spilled some on the galley counter.
Kerosene, of course, left a very definite smell if you inadvertently spilled some while refueling.
You had to preheat the PRIMUS burners by putting alcohol in the cups under the burner. The major problem with that was overfilling - or spilling some due to a sudden wave action, and then when you lit the burner to preheat it, you had a puddle of pale blue flames on he counter top of the galley that were barely visible if the sun was shining into the cabin.
My solution to that problem was to ask my friends at the German Aircraft Engine Company to have their apprentice shop make me a S/S pan that fitted under the stove.
The pan kept the alcohol spills contained; and also protected the top of the ice box from the radiated heat from the burners when the stove was in use.
Connie
Also, I believe the jets on stoves are sized to the fuel they are designed to burn. Could be a problem there too.
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
You might have trouble getting it to dump out. I know a guy who has one of those stoves and he carries it upside down, attached to the bottom of one of his hatch covers, when he's not using it, and the alchohol does not leak out at all. There is some sort of absorbent material inside that holds the fuel in suspension.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote: > I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead > of the > alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it > ruined? > > Jazz >
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On 3/11/2016 12:07 PM, tynerjr@md.metrocast.net wrote: John, It certainly is, and they made me the most beautiful engine turned pan you could ever imagine. It had a flat bottom; rounded corners to fit the gimbaled structure, and about a 1 inch high edge all around. Incidentally, the PRIMUS stove was gimbaled so we could cook underway on either tack. Connie
It's nice to have friends like that, isn't it, Connie? :-) ----- John Tyner M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee"
On 03-11-2016 12:26 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 3/11/2016 10:34 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
Hi Tom,
We had a PRIMUS two burner stove in our big boat. It was designed to work with either kerosene or alcohol. You had to change the jets in the burners to change from alcohol to kerosene. (The hole in the kerosene jet was much smaller than the one for alcohol)
The alcohol fueled stove was much slower to heat a pot of water (there are fewer Btu's in alcohol vs. kerosene) but the Admirable preferred using the alcohol because it didn't smell if you spilled some on the galley counter.
Kerosene, of course, left a very definite smell if you inadvertently spilled some while refueling.
You had to preheat the PRIMUS burners by putting alcohol in the cups under the burner. The major problem with that was overfilling - or spilling some due to a sudden wave action, and then when you lit the burner to preheat it, you had a puddle of pale blue flames on he counter top of the galley that were barely visible if the sun was shining into the cabin.
My solution to that problem was to ask my friends at the German Aircraft Engine Company to have their apprentice shop make me a S/S pan that fitted under the stove.
The pan kept the alcohol spills contained; and also protected the top of the ice box from the radiated heat from the burners when the stove was in use.
Connie
Also, I believe the jets on stoves are sized to the fuel they are designed to burn. Could be a problem there too.
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Larry Yake <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
You might have trouble getting it to dump out. I know a guy who has one of those stoves and he carries it upside down, attached to the bottom of one of his hatch covers, when he's not using it, and the alchohol does not leak out at all. There is some sort of absorbent material inside that holds the fuel in suspension.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
> Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not > for an > alcohol stove. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote: >> I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the >> alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined? >> >> Jazz >> > -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Good idea to keep different liquids in VERY different looking containers. Read of long distance sailors taking all the can labels OFF their stuff and writing down the contents with Magic Marker on the bare can. Easy enough to mistake anything for anything else in a dark,rocking boat when you have just been up for 24 hours. Thanks for the reminder. I used an alcohol stove for a while and found that the flame can be hard to see and it will not go out being doused with water. Safe sailing, Tom B <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2115-d> This email is safe. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2115-d> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
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On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz
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Jazz, Whatever you try, when you next try to light the stove, do it with the stove out of the boat and far away from other flammable materials and use a heat source with a long handle. You could get a bang or a large flare-up. If there is a "non-leak" foam core in the fuel tank there is no telling how much vapor will be left in it after all the flushing and mixing of "fuels". I remember as a kid getting my eyebrows singed by waving a match over a two day empty gas can, on a dare. Good luck, Tom B <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2115-d> This email is safe. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2115-d> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahaha I know it's a paint thinner, it was just in the same type of container and it was getting dark. I'll dump it and let it evap a while. Then alchohol amd see. It's a round dislike metal container with a large circular wick. Sits under stove
Jazz On Mar 10, 2016 8:25 PM, "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Stove not ruined, unless there's some parts in it that would be damaged or dissolved by the mineral spirits.
Pour it out into a safe container as Bob says, then let the stove sit outside opened up (whatever that looks like for your stove) and let whatever you can't pour out fully evaporate. Then give it some alcohol and test that it's OK.
cheers, John S.
On 03/10/2016 08:17 PM, Bob Eeg wrote:
Dump it in a container. Mineral Spirits is paint thinner.....not for an alcohol stove.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I accidentally filled my stove with the mineral spirits instead of the alchohol... advise please. Can I just burn it off? Is it ruined?
Jazz
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
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