An M-15 Rudder question (this may be a Bob question): I know how to get the rudder to the horizontal position. However, it does not stay there, in the water or on the trailer. My rudder was the only one at the CBC (in the water) that would not stay up. I tried tightening the screws on the aluminum cheek plates without success. Additional varnish was suggested, but I am not sure if they were serious. It seems some rudders stay up and some do not. I put a new length of bungee cord on two years ago, but I do not think it stayed up with the old elastic. Any reason why mine does not? Sandra, re. Sequencing: My Honda is air cooled without the impeller. I suspect yours is a similar vintage. I start it before I hook up the trailer, and let it run briefly. If it did not start I would not bother to hook up the trailer until it was running. The last thing I do before I back the trailer in the water is start the Honda. Again, if it did not start I would not put the boat in the water. One less thing to do when the boat hits the water. Also the power boaters think I am crazy and stay out of my way. Then again, most sail boater think...aw, never mind. Sometimes I put the rudder on before I launch, sometimes when in the water before pushing off from the trailer. If the wife is with me I usually put it on before I launch and keep my hand on the tiller as she backs in. I launched in Reedville with the mast in the crutch and no rudder and it was very difficult to steer with only the outboard. Also Bob: I noticed your TSBB post about the departure of yet another Nor’Sea-27 to Hawaii. I am almost certain I saw one in Deltaville, VA. What a nice boat. The pictures do not do it justice. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY
Sandra, The bungee needs to be tightened by shortening it. Move the knot further up the cord until the rudder will stay up when you go through the routine that raises it. Once it is shorted enough, cut off the tail. Don't shorten it so much that it will not drop when you lift the tiller sharply. Whoever suggested more varnish was pulling your leg. Stan m-15, #177, Carol II
I replaced "Really's " bungee cord with another which has a larger diameter than the stock Bungee. I stretched it and rapped it in masking tape before squeezing it through the rudder hole. I drilled a little larger hole through the tiller. It keeps the the rudder up and deploys to the down position with authority. I replace it every couple years. Rich Cottrell Stanley Winarski <winarski@cox.net> wrote: Sandra, The bungee needs to be tightened by shortening it. Move the knot further up the cord until the rudder will stay up when you go through the routine that raises it. Once it is shorted enough, cut off the tail. Don't shorten it so much that it will not drop when you lift the tiller sharply. Whoever suggested more varnish was pulling your leg. Stan m-15, #177, Carol II _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Steering, I've found the M-15 maneuvers very easily when I lock the outboard in the dead ahead position and steer using only the rudder. Of course, it gets a bit more involved when it becomes necessary to reverse, Stan m-15, #177, Carol II
Steve All you need to do is change the bungee to stiffen up the movement of the tiller. A larger bungee would work fine. You want enough tension so the rudder will stay down without the tiller lifting easily. Sandra's new Montgomery 15 has the standard folding rudder that all M_15s have. I have already sent her a photo of the rudder folded in the up position and I am sure she will figure out how to launch her new boat with the rudder in the up position. Steve, thanks for the comments on the Norsea 27. She is really the best in 27 feet. George is sailing his to Hawaii and beyond singlehanded and he left yesterday. He called me from offshore after clearing the Golden Gate....his message....
Update on George
George called me at 5:27 PM on his cell......now offshore past the 'bucket' heading for Maui..... Moving along at 5.2 knots under reefed jib alone.. Boat is sailing beautifully....the Monitor is doing all the steering and George says he is huddled under the dodger to avoid the ice cold spray.......Thanks for building such a great boat.....!..(your welcome George)..... Will email and or call when he arrives......
Take care George! Fair winds my friend.
Bob Eeg
Also received this email from Garbonzo who owns a Norsea 27 I built a few years ago. This email came in today.... Hello all, I'm nearing the end of a month long sojourn in the Great Lakes (one week to go) and I have been continually impressed by the performance of my Nor'sea. The first shot was an overnite 75 mile sleighride from Manotowoc Wi to Frankfort, MI in a VERY strong Southwester. It was 17 hours of straight downwind and broad reach conditions, with the Monitor in charge all the way. We went wing on wing for about 4 hours straight in very choppy and 3-5 ft swells with the monitor in charge and then the wind freshened and I shortened down to about half the foller furled jib, poled out and kept going thru the night. Edorfyn handled the chop and swell like a champ. We have had all kind of conditions, including a motorsailing slog straight upwind (almost) and seem to be maintaining our speed better than most of the much bigger boat around us, maintaining a good 5 kts at 2800 on the Yanmar 2GM20F. THIS is A GREAT BOAT, none better, and of course, it gets looks and compliments everwhere, even from the smokeboaters. Way to go Lyle and BOB E. BOB G So Steve, thanks for the compliment! I really enjoy reading stories about people cruising in small boats. Fair Winds Bob Eeg www.norseayachts.com www.montgomeryboats.com www.practical-slander.com (949) 489-8227 Steve R. wrote:
An M-15 Rudder question (this may be a Bob question):
I know how to get the rudder to the horizontal position. However, it does not stay there, in the water or on the trailer. My rudder was the only one at the CBC (in the water) that would not stay up. I tried tightening the screws on the aluminum cheek plates without success. Additional varnish was suggested, but I am not sure if they were serious. It seems some rudders stay up and some do not. I put a new length of bungee cord on two years ago, but I do not think it stayed up with the old elastic. Any reason why mine does not?
Sandra, re. Sequencing:
My Honda is air cooled without the impeller. I suspect yours is a similar vintage. I start it before I hook up the trailer, and let it run briefly. If it did not start I would not bother to hook up the trailer until it was running. The last thing I do before I back the trailer in the water is start the Honda. Again, if it did not start I would not put the boat in the water. One less thing to do when the boat hits the water. Also the power boaters think I am crazy and stay out of my way. Then again, most sail boater think...aw, never mind.
Sometimes I put the rudder on before I launch, sometimes when in the water before pushing off from the trailer. If the wife is with me I usually put it on before I launch and keep my hand on the tiller as she backs in. I launched in Reedville with the mast in the crutch and no rudder and it was very difficult to steer with only the outboard.
Also Bob:
I noticed your TSBB post about the departure of yet another Nor’Sea-27 to Hawaii. I am almost certain I saw one in Deltaville, VA. What a nice boat. The pictures do not do it justice.
steve
Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY
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