In a message dated 6/27/2005 4:08:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, gburmeyer@mac.com writes: Question: have you let Tipperary go to see what she does ultimately? Hi George, Have to give that question a big - NO. I think it's because of the last boat I owned. I used to have a Potter 15 and kept reading about knockdowns and Turtling. I did have a couple of scares in the SF Bay and each time it was because the boat wasn't sailing, but stopped. I'll be off to the lake again by tomorrow. It's my plan to add some gear, weigh down the bow a little and give it another practice session. I tried lots of adjustments to various items without success. I'm guessing added weight will help as it was so easy with crew. I'll post results in a few days. Thanks all for the responces Bill M-17 "Tipperary"