Just purchased M15 #191
I drove down to Bakersfield on Wednesday and brought home a 1981 M15, hull # 191, that looks like it was built yesterday. 639 mile round trip (I live about an hour drive north of San Francisco in Sonoma County) and the trip back was made all the more exciting by worries about the rusty trailer, but it all went well. Left at 9am and was home by 11:30 pm. As I said the boat is pristine. Maybe a bit over powered by a Tohatsu 5hp. The one area of concern I have is that edges where the hull meets the centerboard trunk appear not to be bonded in a few places, one as long as a 6 inch run. The previous owners report no leakage but their experience was only one sail on Lake Tahoe. Part of the seam looks to have been caulked with a white epoxy(?). Anyone have experience with this joint, what it's supposed to look like, or the making of repairs. Incidentally, I will be sailing the boat on Tomales Bay to begin with, a beautiful 6 mile long, 1 mile (avg.) wide bay bordered by Point Reyes National Seashore to the West, and with the San Andreas Fault running down the middle; working my way up to sailing San Francisco Bay, and North to San Pablo and Susiun Bays and the Sacramento River Delta. I have some experience with boats and the sea as a commercial fisherman, but I am new to sailing. I've taken some lessons on SF Bay and will beginning a six week course of lessons through Sailing Experience Adventures (SEA), a non-profit that teaches adult and youth sailing on SF Bay. I'm very excited about this new adventure. Thank you in advance for any help on my centerboard questions. Sincerely, Tom Nixon M15 #191
Tom, Wise choices, both the M-15 and the sailing lessons. Took me a couple of fouled attempts at sailing before I realized that having spent the $ to buy my M-15 (#335, 1985) that I needed to spend a few more $ on lessons to learn how to sail. I also had concerns about the trailer when I moved to the South Puget Sound area a couple of years ago, and stopped at each rest stop along the way to do a walk around to look at things. The trailer and boat made the journey O K, but it did take awhile longer with all of those stops. I think there are a few more M-boaters in the Fort Bragg area of California, perhaps they will provide some local lore for you. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Nixon" <thoslloyd@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 12:38 PM Subject: M_Boats: Just purchased M15 #191 I drove down to Bakersfield on Wednesday and brought home a 1981 M15, hull # 191, that looks like it was built yesterday. 639 mile round trip (I live about an hour drive north of San Francisco in Sonoma County) and the trip back was made all the more exciting by worries about the rusty trailer, but it all went well. Left at 9am and was home by 11:30 pm. As I said the boat is pristine. Maybe a bit over powered by a Tohatsu 5hp. The one area of concern I have is that edges where the hull meets the centerboard trunk appear not to be bonded in a few places, one as long as a 6 inch run. The previous owners report no leakage but their experience was only one sail on Lake Tahoe. Part of the seam looks to have been caulked with a white epoxy(?). Anyone have experience with this joint, what it's supposed to look like, or the making of repairs. Incidentally, I will be sailing the boat on Tomales Bay to begin with, a beautiful 6 mile long, 1 mile (avg.) wide bay bordered by Point Reyes National Seashore to the West, and with the San Andreas Fault running down the middle; working my way up to sailing San Francisco Bay, and North to San Pablo and Susiun Bays and the Sacramento River Delta. I have some experience with boats and the sea as a commercial fisherman, but I am new to sailing. I've taken some lessons on SF Bay and will beginning a six week course of lessons through Sailing Experience Adventures (SEA), a non-profit that teaches adult and youth sailing on SF Bay. I'm very excited about this new adventure. Thank you in advance for any help on my centerboard questions. Sincerely, Tom Nixon M15 #191 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3722/7168 - Release Date: 03/08/14
Welcome and congrats on the new toy. Since posting pics isn't that easy, maybe you can compare notes with another monty owner. Or if you have an online account like photobucket you could post a photo and put a link up here so we can all eyeball it. Mike (our water is still hard) in MI -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Nixon Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 3:38 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Just purchased M15 #191 I drove down to Bakersfield on Wednesday and brought home a 1981 M15, hull # 191, that looks like it was built yesterday. 639 mile round trip (I live about an hour drive north of San Francisco in Sonoma County) and the trip back was made all the more exciting by worries about the rusty trailer, but it all went well. Left at 9am and was home by 11:30 pm. As I said the boat is pristine. Maybe a bit over powered by a Tohatsu 5hp. The one area of concern I have is that edges where the hull meets the centerboard trunk appear not to be bonded in a few places, one as long as a 6 inch run. The previous owners report no leakage but their experience was only one sail on Lake Tahoe. Part of the seam looks to have been caulked with a white epoxy(?). Anyone have experience with this joint, what it's supposed to look like, or the making of repairs. Incidentally, I will be sailing the boat on Tomales Bay to begin with, a beautiful 6 mile long, 1 mile (avg.) wide bay bordered by Point Reyes National Seashore to the West, and with the San Andreas Fault running down the middle; working my way up to sailing San Francisco Bay, and North to San Pablo and Susiun Bays and the Sacramento River Delta. I have some experience with boats and the sea as a commercial fisherman, but I am new to sailing. I've taken some lessons on SF Bay and will beginning a six week course of lessons through Sailing Experience Adventures (SEA), a non-profit that teaches adult and youth sailing on SF Bay. I'm very excited about this new adventure. Thank you in advance for any help on my centerboard questions. Sincerely, Tom Nixon M15 #191
Thomas, Congratulations on the new boat. I live in southern Ca now, but used to live in Vallejo, Ca. I sailed my M-15 in all the places you talked about, and more, and they were all wonderful places to sail a Monty. I'm sure you'll enjoy the boat, as well as all of the wonderful places near you to sail it. Keep in touch with the group, and let us know how you're progressing, and where you are actually sailing. Good luck, Bill Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!" On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:04 PM, <speedernut2@gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome and congrats on the new toy.
Since posting pics isn't that easy, maybe you can compare notes with another monty owner.
Or if you have an online account like photobucket you could post a photo and put a link up here so we can all eyeball it.
Mike (our water is still hard) in MI
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Nixon Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 3:38 PM
To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Just purchased M15 #191
I drove down to Bakersfield on Wednesday and brought home a 1981 M15, hull # 191, that looks like it was built yesterday. 639 mile round trip (I live about an hour drive north of San Francisco in Sonoma County) and the trip back was made all the more exciting by worries about the rusty trailer, but it all went well. Left at 9am and was home by 11:30 pm. As I said the boat is pristine. Maybe a bit over powered by a Tohatsu 5hp. The one area of concern I have is that edges where the hull meets the centerboard trunk appear not to be bonded in a few places, one as long as a 6 inch run. The previous owners report no leakage but their experience was only one sail on Lake Tahoe. Part of the seam looks to have been caulked with a white epoxy(?). Anyone have experience with this joint, what it's supposed to look like, or the making of repairs. Incidentally, I will be sailing the boat on Tomales Bay to begin with, a beautiful 6 mile long, 1 mile (avg.) wide bay bordered by Point Reyes National Seashore to the West, and with the San Andreas Fault running down the middle; working my way up to sailing San Francisco Bay, and North to San Pablo and Susiun Bays and the Sacramento River Delta. I have some experience with boats and the sea as a commercial fisherman, but I am new to sailing. I've taken some lessons on SF Bay and will beginning a six week course of lessons through Sailing Experience Adventures (SEA), a non-profit that teaches adult and youth sailing on SF Bay. I'm very excited about this new adventure. Thank you in advance for any help on my centerboard questions. Sincerely, Tom Nixon M15 #191
Hi Tom. I am about ready to sell my M-15 hull 189 built in 1981. I bought in 2006 and when I saw the shoal keel I knew I had to seal up the separation you are referring to. I covered that edge with fiberglass and resin. Sanded and filed it smooth, primed and painted (all two-part resins as well as matching (cream) color two part paint). You may have steel punchings instead of lead. If you dry dock most of the time that will be no problem...also, when I bought this vessel it had a fuctionless CB. Had to have that removed and a new CB installed at Morrrison Marine here in Sacramento....Good luck and Fair Winds. Larry Hughston -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Nixon Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 12:39 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Just purchased M15 #191 I drove down to Bakersfield on Wednesday and brought home a 1981 M15, hull # 191, that looks like it was built yesterday. 639 mile round trip (I live about an hour drive north of San Francisco in Sonoma County) and the trip back was made all the more exciting by worries about the rusty trailer, but it all went well. Left at 9am and was home by 11:30 pm. As I said the boat is pristine. Maybe a bit over powered by a Tohatsu 5hp. The one area of concern I have is that edges where the hull meets the centerboard trunk appear not to be bonded in a few places, one as long as a 6 inch run. The previous owners report no leakage but their experience was only one sail on Lake Tahoe. Part of the seam looks to have been caulked with a white epoxy(?). Anyone have experience with this joint, what it's supposed to look like, or the making of repairs. Incidentally, I will be sailing the boat on Tomales Bay to begin with, a beautiful 6 mile long, 1 mile (avg.) wide bay bordered by Point Reyes National Seashore to the West, and with the San Andreas Fault running down the middle; working my way up to sailing San Francisco Bay, and North to San Pablo and Susiun Bays and the Sacramento River Delta. I have some experience with boats and the sea as a commercial fisherman, but I am new to sailing. I've taken some lessons on SF Bay and will beginning a six week course of lessons through Sailing Experience Adventures (SEA), a non-profit that teaches adult and youth sailing on SF Bay. I'm very excited about this new adventure. Thank you in advance for any help on my centerboard questions. Sincerely, Tom Nixon M15 #191
Thanks Larry. (And wow, our boats are very close siblings.) Good to have confirmation of what I'm seeing and the method to make it water tight. Luckily it's been on the trailer most of it's life, stored inside, and for the last several years it's lived in Bakersfield. So it's plenty dried out. I believe the CB to be functional based on the testimony of the previous owners who only sailed it once in Lake Tahoe and said they had no problem with the centerboard. But I have not independently confirmed that. So, selling your boat...moving into a different boat? Or a new hobby? Best of luck to you. Tom On Mar 13, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Hughston, Larry@DGS <Larry.Hughston@dgs.ca.gov> wrote:
Hi Tom. I am about ready to sell my M-15 hull 189 built in 1981. I bought in 2006 and when I saw the shoal keel I knew I had to seal up the separation you are referring to. I covered that edge with fiberglass and resin. Sanded and filed it smooth, primed and painted (all two-part resins as well as matching (cream) color two part paint). You may have steel punchings instead of lead. If you dry dock most of the time that will be no problem...also, when I bought this vessel it had a fuctionless CB. Had to have that removed and a new CB installed at Morrrison Marine here in Sacramento....Good luck and Fair Winds. Larry Hughston
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Nixon Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 12:39 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Just purchased M15 #191
I drove down to Bakersfield on Wednesday and brought home a 1981 M15, hull # 191, that looks like it was built yesterday. 639 mile round trip (I live about an hour drive north of San Francisco in Sonoma County) and the trip back was made all the more exciting by worries about the rusty trailer, but it all went well. Left at 9am and was home by 11:30 pm. As I said the boat is pristine. Maybe a bit over powered by a Tohatsu 5hp. The one area of concern I have is that edges where the hull meets the centerboard trunk appear not to be bonded in a few places, one as long as a 6 inch run. The previous owners report no leakage but their experience was only one sail on Lake Tahoe. Part of the seam looks to have been caulked with a white epoxy(?). Anyone have experience with this joint, what it's supposed to look like, or the making of repairs. Incidentally, I will be sailing the boat on Tomales Bay to begin with, a beautiful 6 mile long, 1 mile (avg.) wide bay bordered by Point Reyes National Seashore to the West, and with the San Andreas Fault running down the middle; working my way up to sailing San Francisco Bay, and North to San Pablo and Susiun Bays and the Sacramento River Delta. I have some experience with boats and the sea as a commercial fisherman, but I am new to sailing. I've taken some lessons on SF Bay and will beginning a six week course of lessons through Sailing Experience Adventures (SEA), a non-profit that teaches adult and youth sailing on SF Bay. I'm very excited about this new adventure. Thank you in advance for any help on my centerboard questions. Sincerely, Tom Nixon M15 #191
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