Morning all, I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems. Thanks in advance for suggestions, Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
Rick, Since you are asking all the right questions, you know all the right answers :) Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill oversize, fill, redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while you are at it. Bent nail job. Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward sheeting system? If so I would be interested in what gear you are using. Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
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rick: what bill said :-) see west system manual - http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai... excellent description and pictures in section 7.2.1 of how to fill and re-drill the bolt holes. (ignore the writing in this section about using the west system epoxy to bond the fitting to the deck. after filling the bolt holes as described use deck bedding compound.) :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,
Since you are asking all the right questions, you know all the right answers :)
Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill oversize, fill, redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while you are at it. Bent nail job.
Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward sheeting system? If so I would be interested in what gear you are using.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
Well, I have two votes for redrill, baby, redrill, and Bob's recommendation of use them as is. Fortunately, I like Bob's suggestion best, and luckily he gets three votes! Bill, I'm replacing the pin-stop traveler car and track with a Harken small boat windward sheeting traveler car so I can move the traveler rapidly and easily when tacking. Pulling on the windward control line automatically releases the leeward line so you only have to pull one line during the tack. With the pin stop, you can only release the pin during the short period when the mainsheet is slack as you go through the wind, and if you miss you have to spill wind on the new tack to make the move. It's kind of a pain when you're trying to get around and moving quickly. Larry Yake has the same system on his boat and he has given me some useful tips and advice on installation. I've ordered the parts from Bacon Sails in Annapolis, who has by far the best prices, and they're being drop-shipped direct to my home. Hope to get it installed in time for the new racing season. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:15 AM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
rick:
what bill said :-)
see west system manual -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
excellent description and pictures in section 7.2.1 of how to fill and re-drill the bolt holes. (ignore the writing in this section about using the west system epoxy to bond the fitting to the deck. after filling the bolt holes as described use deck bedding compound.)
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,
Since you are asking all the right questions, you know all the right answers :)
Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill oversize, fill, redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while you are at it. Bent nail job.
Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward sheeting system? If so I would be interested in what gear you are using.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
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Rick: I'm doing the same thing with my 2005 M17. The parts come tomorrow. But I'm thinking of moving the track further forward to get the mainsheet further from the tiller. ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Rick Davies wrote:
Well, I have two votes for redrill, baby, redrill, and Bob's recommendation of use them as is. Fortunately, I like Bob's suggestion best, and luckily he gets three votes!
Bill, I'm replacing the pin-stop traveler car and track with a Harken small boat windward sheeting traveler car so I can move the traveler rapidly and easily when tacking. Pulling on the windward control line automatically releases the leeward line so you only have to pull one line during the tack. With the pin stop, you can only release the pin during the short period when the mainsheet is slack as you go through the wind, and if you miss you have to spill wind on the new tack to make the move. It's kind of a pain when you're trying to get around and moving quickly. Larry Yake has the same system on his boat and he has given me some useful tips and advice on installation. I've ordered the parts from Bacon Sails in Annapolis, who has by far the best prices, and they're being drop-shipped direct to my home. Hope to get it installed in time for the new racing season.
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:15 AM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
rick:
what bill said :-)
see west system manual -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
excellent description and pictures in section 7.2.1 of how to fill and re-drill the bolt holes. (ignore the writing in this section about using the west system epoxy to bond the fitting to the deck. after filling the bolt holes as described use deck bedding compound.)
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,
Since you are asking all the right questions, you know all the right answers :)
Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill oversize, fill, redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while you are at it. Bent nail job.
Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward sheeting system? If so I would be interested in what gear you are using.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
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Rick, What model number was it for that Harken small boat main sheet traveling car? That sure sounds like the way to go. Jake M-17 # 263 A-koo-de-A --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote: From: Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Track replacement To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 12:44 PM Well, I have two votes for redrill, baby, redrill, and Bob's recommendation of use them as is. Fortunately, I like Bob's suggestion best, and luckily he gets three votes! Bill, I'm replacing the pin-stop traveler car and track with a Harken small boat windward sheeting traveler car so I can move the traveler rapidly and easily when tacking. Pulling on the windward control line automatically releases the leeward line so you only have to pull one line during the tack. With the pin stop, you can only release the pin during the short period when the mainsheet is slack as you go through the wind, and if you miss you have to spill wind on the new tack to make the move. It's kind of a pain when you're trying to get around and moving quickly. Larry Yake has the same system on his boat and he has given me some useful tips and advice on installation. I've ordered the parts from Bacon Sails in Annapolis, who has by far the best prices, and they're being drop-shipped direct to my home. Hope to get it installed in time for the new racing season. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:15 AM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
rick:
what bill said :-)
see west system manual -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
excellent description and pictures in section 7.2.1 of how to fill and re-drill the bolt holes. (ignore the writing in this section about using the west system epoxy to bond the fitting to the deck. after filling the bolt holes as described use deck bedding compound.)
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,
Since you are asking all the right questions, you know all the right answers :)
Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill oversize, fill, redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while you are at it. Bent nail job.
Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward sheeting system? If so I would be interested in what gear you are using.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
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Jake, I have ordered Harken Part No. 2744, also a pair of endstops, #263, and 6' of low-profile track with holes on 4" centers. Hope this will do the job. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Apr 4, 2011 7:26 PM, jake horine <smartypart@yahoo.com> wrote: Rick, What model number was it for that Harken small boat main sheet traveling car? That sure sounds like the way to go. Jake M-17 # 263 A-koo-de-A --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote: From: Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Track replacement To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 12:44 PM Well, I have two votes for redrill, baby, redrill, and Bob's recommendation of use them as is. Fortunately, I like Bob's suggestion best, and luckily he gets three votes! Bill, I'm replacing the pin-stop traveler car and track with a Harken small boat windward sheeting traveler car so I can move the traveler rapidly and easily when tacking. Pulling on the windward control line automatically releases the leeward line so you only have to pull one line during the tack. With the pin stop, you can only release the pin during the short period when the mainsheet is slack as you go through the wind, and if you miss you have to spill wind on the new tack to make the move. It's kind of a pain when you're trying to get around and moving quickly. Larry Yake has the same system on his boat and he has given me some useful tips and advice on installation. I've ordered the parts from Bacon Sails in Annapolis, who has by far the best prices, and they're being drop-shipped direct to my home. Hope to get it installed in time for the new racing season. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:15 AM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote: > rick: > > what bill said :-) > > see west system manual - > > > http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai... > > excellent description and pictures in section 7.2.1 of how to fill and > re-drill the bolt holes. (ignore the writing in this section about using > the west system epoxy to bond the fitting to the deck. after filling the > bolt holes as described use deck bedding compound.) > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com > :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us > > --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Rick, > > > > Since you are asking all the right questions, you know all > > the right answers > > :) > > > > Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill > > oversize, fill, > > redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while > > you are at it. Bent > > nail job. > > > > Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward > > sheeting system? If so I > > would be interested in what gear you are using. > > > > Bill Wickett > > Makin' Time M17 #622 > > > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Morning all, > > > > > > I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes > > when replacing the > > > traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 > > M17. The new track holes > > > should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so > > I plan to re-use > > > those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or > > should I fill the holes > > > with > > > epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, > > should I drill them out a > > > little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these > > three possibilities I would > > > obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store > > up future problems. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for suggestions, > > > > > > Rick > > > M17 #633 > > > Lynne L > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Jake, I don't know if I actually sent this from my phone so here it is again: I have ordered Harken Part No. 2744, also a pair of endstops, #263, and 6' of low-profile track with holes on 4" centers, #373. Hope this will do the job. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L -- Sent from my Palm Pre ------------------------------ On Apr 4, 2011 7:26 PM, jake horine <smartypart@yahoo.com> wrote: Rick, What model number was it for that Harken small boat main sheet traveling car? That sure sounds like the way to go. Jake M-17 # 263 A-koo-de-A --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote: From: Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Track replacement To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 12:44 PM Well, I have two votes for redrill, baby, redrill, and Bob's recommendation of use them as is. Fortunately, I like Bob's suggestion best, and luckily he gets three votes! Bill, I'm replacing the pin-stop traveler car and track with a Harken small boat windward sheeting traveler car so I can move the traveler rapidly and easily when tacking. Pulling on the windward control line automatically releases the leeward line so you only have to pull one line during the tack. With the pin stop, you can only release the pin during the short period when the mainsheet is slack as you go through the wind, and if you miss you have to spill wind on the new tack to make the move. It's kind of a pain when you're trying to get around and moving quickly. Larry Yake has the same system on his boat and he has given me some useful tips and advice on installation. I've ordered the parts from Bacon Sails in Annapolis, who has by far the best prices, and they're being drop-shipped direct to my home. Hope to get it installed in time for the new racing season. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:15 AM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
rick:
what bill said :-)
see west system manual -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
excellent description and pictures in section 7.2.1 of how to fill and re-drill the bolt holes. (ignore the writing in this section about using the west system epoxy to bond the fitting to the deck. after filling the bolt holes as described use deck bedding compound.)
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,
Since you are asking all the right questions, you know all the right answers :)
Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill oversize, fill, redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while you are at it. Bent nail job.
Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward sheeting system? If so I would be interested in what gear you are using.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
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Hello Ric; Thanks for the information. This project is now top of the list. Cheers........Jake M-17 #263 A-koo-de-A --- On Tue, 4/5/11, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote: From: Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Track replacement To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 6:01 AM Jake, I don't know if I actually sent this from my phone so here it is again: I have ordered Harken Part No. 2744, also a pair of endstops, #263, and 6' of low-profile track with holes on 4" centers, #373. Hope this will do the job. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L -- Sent from my Palm Pre ------------------------------ On Apr 4, 2011 7:26 PM, jake horine <smartypart@yahoo.com> wrote: Rick, What model number was it for that Harken small boat main sheet traveling car? That sure sounds like the way to go. Jake M-17 # 263 A-koo-de-A --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote: From: Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Track replacement To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 12:44 PM Well, I have two votes for redrill, baby, redrill, and Bob's recommendation of use them as is. Fortunately, I like Bob's suggestion best, and luckily he gets three votes! Bill, I'm replacing the pin-stop traveler car and track with a Harken small boat windward sheeting traveler car so I can move the traveler rapidly and easily when tacking. Pulling on the windward control line automatically releases the leeward line so you only have to pull one line during the tack. With the pin stop, you can only release the pin during the short period when the mainsheet is slack as you go through the wind, and if you miss you have to spill wind on the new tack to make the move. It's kind of a pain when you're trying to get around and moving quickly. Larry Yake has the same system on his boat and he has given me some useful tips and advice on installation. I've ordered the parts from Bacon Sails in Annapolis, who has by far the best prices, and they're being drop-shipped direct to my home. Hope to get it installed in time for the new racing season. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:15 AM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
rick:
what bill said :-)
see west system manual -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
excellent description and pictures in section 7.2.1 of how to fill and re-drill the bolt holes. (ignore the writing in this section about using the west system epoxy to bond the fitting to the deck. after filling the bolt holes as described use deck bedding compound.)
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,
Since you are asking all the right questions, you know all the right answers :)
Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill oversize, fill, redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while you are at it. Bent nail job.
Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward sheeting system? If so I would be interested in what gear you are using.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
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Dave: What bedding compound do you prefer? ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:15 AM, W David Scobie wrote:
rick:
what bill said :-)
see west system manual -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
excellent description and pictures in section 7.2.1 of how to fill and re-drill the bolt holes. (ignore the writing in this section about using the west system epoxy to bond the fitting to the deck. after filling the bolt holes as described use deck bedding compound.)
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,
Since you are asking all the right questions, you know all the right answers :)
Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill oversize, fill, redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while you are at it. Bent nail job.
Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward sheeting system? If so I would be interested in what gear you are using.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
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gary: i like 3M's 4200. :: dave scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us --- On Fri, 4/8/11, Gary M Hyde <gmhyde1@mac.com> wrote:
Dave: What bedding compound do you prefer?
~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2'
On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:15 AM, W David Scobie wrote:
rick:
what bill said :-)
see west system manual -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
excellent description and pictures in section 7.2.1 of how to fill and re-drill the bolt holes. (ignore the writing in this section about using the west system epoxy to bond the fitting to the deck. after filling the bolt holes as described use deck bedding compound.)
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,
Since you are asking all the right questions, you
know all
the right answers :)
Doing it the best way is not always the easiest. Drill oversize, fill, redrill. Might as well remove some of the core while you are at it. Bent nail job.
Why are you changing the track? Going to a windward sheeting system? If so I would be interested in what gear you are using.
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
Rick The hole pattern is the same so just clean out the old holes and rebed the new track with fresh caulking compound. (just like rebedding hardware; should be done every 6 years for boats that are outside) Don't enlarge those holes; if the holes are dry and clean up with acetone it's no use cutting into good core material. Dry fit the new track first ; have all the hardware at the ready. Be generous with the caulking compound (NOT 5200) Bed under the flush bolt heads as well. You can use the old flush bolts with new lock nuts. The old stainless washers under the cockpit floor should clean up and can be re-used. Let the caulking sit for a day then remove the excess with Acetone and a sharp piece of paint stick. Have fun! Bob www.montgomeryboats.com
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:04:28 -0400 From: jdavies104@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Track replacement
Morning all,
I'm looking for advice on how to handle thru-holes when replacing the traveler track on the cockpit sole of a 2005 M17. The new track holes should line up with the existing 4" centered holes, so I plan to re-use those holes. Can I just remove and replace, or should I fill the holes with epoxy and re-drill? If they should be filled, should I drill them out a little oversize, or fill them as is? Of these three possibilities I would obviously prefer the first, but I don't want to store up future problems.
Thanks in advance for suggestions,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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