Has anyone rerigged their 17 with dyneema? I am considering rerigging my boat and would be interested in any tutorials or ideas. Thanks, Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
JonB: What parts of the rig are you wanting to replace? Running? Standing? :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Tue, May 11, 2021, 10:25 AM Jon Barber <brbrbarber@gmail.com> wrote:
Has anyone rerigged their 17 with dyneema? I am considering rerigging my boat and would be interested in any tutorials or ideas. Thanks, Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
I know a guy who re-rigged his Storfidra 25 (https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/storfidra-25 - Swedish built cruising boat - he may have the only one on the USA west coast?) with soft shrouds - except for the double forestay, which is still wire rope. Not a trailer sailor boat, obviously, but if you think it might be helpful, I could probably put you in touch with him. I thought about it when I was getting new stays & shrouds for my M17. I decided to not take on the learning curve at that time...my rigging got much more streamlined anyhow, because what it came with was all nicopress and thimbles everywhere. So many places to twist or snag or jam up! Now it's much sleeker and less finicky to raise the mast. cheers, john On 5/11/21 10:24 AM, Jon Barber wrote:
Has anyone rerigged their 17 with dyneema? I am considering rerigging my boat and would be interested in any tutorials or ideas. Thanks, Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Is the Storfidra 25 currently located at Swantown Marina in Olympia on the South Puget Sound? Steve M-15 # 335 -----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 11:40 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Cc: John Schinnerer Subject: M_Boats: Re: Re rig I know a guy who re-rigged his Storfidra 25 (https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/storfidra-25 - Swedish built cruising boat - he may have the only one on the USA west coast?) with soft shrouds - except for the double forestay, which is still wire rope. Not a trailer sailor boat, obviously, but if you think it might be helpful, I could probably put you in touch with him. I thought about it when I was getting new stays & shrouds for my M17. I decided to not take on the learning curve at that time...my rigging got much more streamlined anyhow, because what it came with was all nicopress and thimbles everywhere. So many places to twist or snag or jam up! Now it's much sleeker and less finicky to raise the mast. cheers, john On 5/11/21 10:24 AM, Jon Barber wrote:
Has anyone rerigged their 17 with dyneema? I am considering rerigging my boat and would be interested in any tutorials or ideas. Thanks, Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
No, it's in Brookings-Harbor marina, southern end of Oregon coast. Is there another at Swantown? cheers, John On 5/11/21 2:46 PM, Steve Trapp wrote:
Is the Storfidra 25 currently located at Swantown Marina in Olympia on the South Puget Sound? Steve M-15 # 335
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 11:40 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Cc: John Schinnerer Subject: M_Boats: Re: Re rig
I know a guy who re-rigged his Storfidra 25 (https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/storfidra-25 - Swedish built cruising boat - he may have the only one on the USA west coast?) with soft shrouds - except for the double forestay, which is still wire rope.
Not a trailer sailor boat, obviously, but if you think it might be helpful, I could probably put you in touch with him.
I thought about it when I was getting new stays & shrouds for my M17. I decided to not take on the learning curve at that time...my rigging got much more streamlined anyhow, because what it came with was all nicopress and thimbles everywhere. So many places to twist or snag or jam up! Now it's much sleeker and less finicky to raise the mast.
cheers, john
On 5/11/21 10:24 AM, Jon Barber wrote:
Has anyone rerigged their 17 with dyneema? I am considering rerigging my boat and would be interested in any tutorials or ideas. Thanks, Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Does anyone know if there are color code numbers for the original gelcoats used on the Montgomerys? I have a 1976 M17 (hull # 095) that is a beautiful Red/Orange that I’m trying to match some touch-up paint.
GaryF: The codes would be of minimal help as time, age, heat, UV etc has changed the color of your boat. Color matching is tough, even on a boat only a few years old. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 6:47 PM Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know if there are color code numbers for the original gelcoats used on the Montgomerys? I have a 1976 M17 (hull # 095) that is a beautiful Red/Orange that I’m trying to match some touch-up paint.
Hi Gary, I watched this video a while ago about Color matching gel coat, it seems to be a good strategy for such a thing. Actually, This video is part of an 8 part series on gelcoat repair which I found all to be interesting (by BoatworksToday) You may want to check them out. https://youtu.be/yoURRmkD8MY I haven’t tried doing it myself yet but it’s on the agenda for repairs on my M17. Cheers, Jason Leckie Kuma M17 On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 7:15 PM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
GaryF:
The codes would be of minimal help as time, age, heat, UV etc has changed the color of your boat. Color matching is tough, even on a boat only a few years old.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 6:47 PM Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know if there are color code numbers for the original gelcoats used on the Montgomerys? I have a 1976 M17 (hull # 095) that is a beautiful Red/Orange that I’m trying to match some touch-up paint.
If it's anything like other coatings (like 'paint' that is) then you can usually get a darn good color match from a supplier, if you can provide even a small sample of the existing color. Super easy for regular paints (oil or latex), any paint store or hardware store with paint department can do it these days. Does anyone know if polyurethanes can be done the same way? Never bought any yet but if they are made same way from a couple different bases with colors added then ought to be similar. cheers, John On 11/18/21 7:38 PM, Jason Leckie wrote:
Hi Gary,
I watched this video a while ago about Color matching gel coat, it seems to be a good strategy for such a thing. Actually, This video is part of an 8 part series on gelcoat repair which I found all to be interesting (by BoatworksToday) You may want to check them out.
I haven’t tried doing it myself yet but it’s on the agenda for repairs on my M17.
Cheers, Jason Leckie
Kuma M17
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 7:15 PM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
GaryF:
The codes would be of minimal help as time, age, heat, UV etc has changed the color of your boat. Color matching is tough, even on a boat only a few years old.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021, 6:47 PM Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know if there are color code numbers for the original gelcoats used on the Montgomerys? I have a 1976 M17 (hull # 095) that is a beautiful Red/Orange that I’m trying to match some touch-up paint.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
I think you may have the same color as my 1974 #38 M17 original color. Kind of a tangerine? I've seen a few pics of M17s that color but can't remember whose. Mine was at some point prior to my ownership pained over with more of a deeper red (not nearly so orange) which I really like. There are a few small rub-wear areas and similar where I can see the original gelcoat though. Mine needs some buffing at least, maybe a re-painting, so I'm curious about possibly getting polurethane hull paint that is color-matched. cheers, John On 11/18/21 6:47 PM, Gary Froeschner wrote:
Does anyone know if there are color code numbers for the original gelcoats used on the Montgomerys? I have a 1976 M17 (hull # 095) that is a beautiful Red/Orange that I’m trying to match some touch-up paint.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
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