The penatrol will give you a nice satin sheen, but you'll still need to remove the oxidation first on that dark hull. Penatrol seems to "treat" the gel coat, like Armour All on vinyl, restoring the original luster. To get a real high gloss shine, there's no substitute for buffing, polishing, and waxing. Penatrol is just a lot easier, but the key is still the prep work. Although Tullamore's hull looks great in pictures, there are some blotchy areas where the deeper oxidation wasn't removed completely. As soon as the weather warms enough, I'll be wet sanding and then rebuffing the hull to take care of that, along with patching some nicks in the gel coat. Larry On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:31:30 -0500 "Craig F. Honshell" <chonshell@ia4u.net> writes:

Thanks, Craig.

Looking forward to those pics. The buff deck sounds great, too!

Thanks for the compliments. I'm glad you're enjoying the M-List.

Per its leading proponent, Larry Yake, you may want to try the paint additive Penetrol to bring back your hull's shine. It should be used carefully: You'd probably want to read some posts about it on the M-List archives before using it.

Larry has used Penetrol very successfully on his '76 Monty, Tullamore: Her hull looks new and she's one of the prettiest M17's sailing . . . http://www.funtigo.com/MSOG?b=197153&c=1789789&p=start

I'd eventually like a dark hull on my M17, possibly midnight blue, but that will have to wait 'til I can afford it and that'll be a long wait . . .

Fair winds,

Craig

----- Original Message ----- From: CCW To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: Montgomery sailboat list

Hi Craig. I just bought this boat, and I don't have any pictures of her yet. I'll be happy to share them with the group though, when I take some. She is the older style M17 with the outboard cut out rather than a bracket. Why did they change this feature I wonder? Probably to keep a following sea out of the boat? The older way seems sturdier, a more solid mount, but I know these boats are supposed to be able to make it in the ocean. She does indeed have a green hull with a buff deck and cockpit, and appears never to have been repainted I believe it's the original gel coat. I need to do some oxidation buffing to the hull. The darker colors do seem to get that oxidized look sooner than the lighter ones. I had a black hulled Baja speedboat once, and it was notorious for looking shabby by the end of one season, but she sure cleaned up well!

I enjoyed looking at your photos of Honshell. It's obvious that you have lathered much attention on her, and she looks amazing. It's inspiring to see what can be done to these little boats to make them even saltier looking.

My boat has a Nissan 5 HP four stroke long shaft and that seems to work well with the boat. I tried a 4 HP suzuki single cyl engine on it too, and it had an annoying vibration down low. (It was a two stroke).

Enjoying the posts. What an enthusiastic group!

Craig Weagant

----- Original Message ----- From: Craig F. Honshell To: weagant@pacifier.com Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: Potters and Montgomerys

Craig, Do you have digital pics of your M17? I would very, very, VERY much like to see a '78 M17 with a green hull! If you'd like to see my boat, you'll find her at this link: http://www.funtigo.com/MSOG?b=195276&c=1789789&p=start I haven't named her yet, so she's listed on the link as simply, "Honshell" . . If you have digital pics of your Monty, I don't mind large attachments, so I'd love to get them at this address: chonshell@ia4u.net Fair winds! --Craig F. Honshell, chonshell@ia4u.net; '84 M17 #389 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats