Tod, I sure didn't see it that way, you had Busca going very well indeed. I'm not certain the rake in Miss T's mast is where it should be, (that's one reason I really wanted to talk with Jerry in Monterey) but once it was increased, it made a significant difference in speed, especially to windward. I keep it that way just about all the time, although I ease the backstays a lot when going down wind which is one reason you need an adjustable backstay to get the boat going well both upwind and downwind. John Miss T M17 # 372