Re: M_Boats: storage idea
I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space. Rick M-17 Lynne L #633 ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
I keep my 11# Bruce w/ 17' 5/16" SS chain + 3/8" rode in a milk crate under the cockpit and have found that the rode tangles far less often if I just stuff it into the milk crate rather than coiling it. When I weigh anchor, the rode lays in the footwell and then I feed it into the crate hand-over-hand from the bitter end into the crate. My storage arrangement is on my web page, www.htmills.com. Follow the links to BuscaBrisas' Packing List page. There is a downloadable excel file with a comprehensive list including location aboard the boat... Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of JDavies104@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:14 PM To: gmhyde1@mac.com; montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: storage idea I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space. Rick M-17 Lynne L #633 ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1433 - Release Date: 5/14/2008 4:44 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1433 - Release Date: 5/14/2008 4:44 PM
Thanks. Gary On May 15, 2008, at 5:13 PM, JDavies104@aol.com wrote:
I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space.
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There shouldn't be any need to coil an anchor rode. If you think about it, look at what happens on a boat that has a haus pipe on deck at the bow. As the anchor is pulled up the rode is dropped into the haus pipe and down into the anchor locker. It doesn't get coiled and it doesn't ever get wadded up. I like the milk crate idea since it would be pretty easy to wash/rinse the rode without taking it all out. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary M Hyde" <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: storage idea
Thanks. Gary On May 15, 2008, at 5:13 PM, JDavies104@aol.com wrote:
I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space.
Rick M-17 Lynne L #633
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I think that neatly coiling anchor line is the best way to create tangles - especially when it needs to run out FAST. Having said that, I still can't bring myself to just feed it into a container and let it do it's own thing. Instead I flake it down in a figure 8. If the line is prone to kinkiness to start with, then it needs to be allowed to return to it's natural twist. The easiest way to do this is to get the boat moving at a moderate speed in a (relatively) straight line. Tie off one end of the line and carefully pay out the rest (first take off the chain and anchor of course). The line will return to it's natural state while being towed. Two caveats are: 1) do this somewhere where you have plenty of room and no other traffic. 2) don't get it wrapped up in the prop if you are motoring. When you bring the line back aboard flake it down in a figure 8. The alternating clockwise and counterclockwise turns of the figure 8 cancel each other out. I like using a solid plastic container (shallow, rectangular) because if I'm in a hurry I can flake the rode down as quickly as I bring it aboard and the crud stays in the container (well... mostly) . In places with cleaner bottoms a porous container would be better. Jim Poulakis "Spirit" M-17 #648 On May 16, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Joe Murphy wrote:
There shouldn't be any need to coil an anchor rode. If you think about it, look at what happens on a boat that has a haus pipe on deck at the bow. As the anchor is pulled up the rode is dropped into the haus pipe and down into the anchor locker. It doesn't get coiled and it doesn't ever get wadded up. I like the milk crate idea since it would be pretty easy to wash/ rinse the rode without taking it all out. Joe
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Thanks. Gary On May 15, 2008, at 5:13 PM, JDavies104@aol.com wrote:
I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space.
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For many years I have used the same 200' of 1/2" braided nylon for my stern anchor (obviously on a larger boat), and I feed it into a bucket with nary a tangle either direction. In my opinion, braided line is the key, because three-strand is two stiff to deal with without the need for coiling (and the resulting twist). The milk crate is a good idea if it fits better in the space you have, but the container shape doesn't matter much for such supple material. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of James Poulakis Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:08 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: storage idea I think that neatly coiling anchor line is the best way to create tangles - especially when it needs to run out FAST. Having said that, I still can't bring myself to just feed it into a container and let it do it's own thing. Instead I flake it down in a figure 8. If the line is prone to kinkiness to start with, then it needs to be allowed to return to it's natural twist. The easiest way to do this is to get the boat moving at a moderate speed in a (relatively) straight line. Tie off one end of the line and carefully pay out the rest (first take off the chain and anchor of course). The line will return to it's natural state while being towed. Two caveats are: 1) do this somewhere where you have plenty of room and no other traffic. 2) don't get it wrapped up in the prop if you are motoring. When you bring the line back aboard flake it down in a figure 8. The alternating clockwise and counterclockwise turns of the figure 8 cancel each other out. I like using a solid plastic container (shallow, rectangular) because if I'm in a hurry I can flake the rode down as quickly as I bring it aboard and the crud stays in the container (well... mostly) . In places with cleaner bottoms a porous container would be better. Jim Poulakis "Spirit" M-17 #648 On May 16, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Joe Murphy wrote:
There shouldn't be any need to coil an anchor rode. If you think about it, look at what happens on a boat that has a haus pipe on deck at the bow. As the anchor is pulled up the rode is dropped into the haus pipe and down into the anchor locker. It doesn't get coiled and it doesn't ever get wadded up. I like the milk crate idea since it would be pretty easy to wash/ rinse the rode without taking it all out. Joe
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Thanks. Gary On May 15, 2008, at 5:13 PM, JDavies104@aol.com wrote:
I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space.
Rick M-17 Lynne L #633
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The milk crate is ok, but anchor rode on a mesh bag can live on the foredeck on my M17 and will stay put and dry out there. --Gary On May 17, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
For many years I have used the same 200' of 1/2" braided nylon for my stern anchor (obviously on a larger boat), and I feed it into a bucket with nary a tangle either direction. In my opinion, braided line is the key, because three-strand is two stiff to deal with without the need for coiling (and the resulting twist). The milk crate is a good idea if it fits better in the space you have, but the container shape doesn't matter much for such supple material.
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of James Poulakis Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:08 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: storage idea
I think that neatly coiling anchor line is the best way to create tangles - especially when it needs to run out FAST. Having said that, I still can't bring myself to just feed it into a container and let it do it's own thing. Instead I flake it down in a figure 8.
If the line is prone to kinkiness to start with, then it needs to be allowed to return to it's natural twist. The easiest way to do this is to get the boat moving at a moderate speed in a (relatively) straight line. Tie off one end of the line and carefully pay out the rest (first take off the chain and anchor of course). The line will return to it's natural state while being towed. Two caveats are: 1) do this somewhere where you have plenty of room and no other traffic. 2) don't get it wrapped up in the prop if you are motoring.
When you bring the line back aboard flake it down in a figure 8. The alternating clockwise and counterclockwise turns of the figure 8 cancel each other out.
I like using a solid plastic container (shallow, rectangular) because if I'm in a hurry I can flake the rode down as quickly as I bring it aboard and the crud stays in the container (well... mostly) . In places with cleaner bottoms a porous container would be better.
Jim Poulakis "Spirit" M-17 #648
On May 16, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Joe Murphy wrote:
There shouldn't be any need to coil an anchor rode. If you think about it, look at what happens on a boat that has a haus pipe on deck at the bow. As the anchor is pulled up the rode is dropped into the haus pipe and down into the anchor locker. It doesn't get coiled and it doesn't ever get wadded up. I like the milk crate idea since it would be pretty easy to wash/ rinse the rode without taking it all out. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary M Hyde" <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: storage idea
Thanks. Gary On May 15, 2008, at 5:13 PM, JDavies104@aol.com wrote:
I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space.
Rick M-17 Lynne L #633
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Hi Gang, When I still had my big boat, I want a stern anchor to be instantly available, and to have an anchor rode that would always run free when needed. I solved this problem with a small reel that was fastened to the stern pulpit. The anchor rode could be carefully wound on the reel, and when you really needed it in an emergency, it would always pay out. Connie Gary M Hyde <gmhyde1@mac.com> wrote: The milk crate is ok, but anchor rode on a mesh bag can live on the foredeck on my M17 and will stay put and dry out there. --Gary On May 17, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
For many years I have used the same 200' of 1/2" braided nylon for my stern anchor (obviously on a larger boat), and I feed it into a bucket with nary a tangle either direction. In my opinion, braided line is the key, because three-strand is two stiff to deal with without the need for coiling (and the resulting twist). The milk crate is a good idea if it fits better in the space you have, but the container shape doesn't matter much for such supple material.
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of James Poulakis Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:08 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: storage idea
I think that neatly coiling anchor line is the best way to create tangles - especially when it needs to run out FAST. Having said that, I still can't bring myself to just feed it into a container and let it do it's own thing. Instead I flake it down in a figure 8.
If the line is prone to kinkiness to start with, then it needs to be allowed to return to it's natural twist. The easiest way to do this is to get the boat moving at a moderate speed in a (relatively) straight line. Tie off one end of the line and carefully pay out the rest (first take off the chain and anchor of course). The line will return to it's natural state while being towed. Two caveats are: 1) do this somewhere where you have plenty of room and no other traffic. 2) don't get it wrapped up in the prop if you are motoring.
When you bring the line back aboard flake it down in a figure 8. The alternating clockwise and counterclockwise turns of the figure 8 cancel each other out.
I like using a solid plastic container (shallow, rectangular) because if I'm in a hurry I can flake the rode down as quickly as I bring it aboard and the crud stays in the container (well... mostly) . In places with cleaner bottoms a porous container would be better.
Jim Poulakis "Spirit" M-17 #648
On May 16, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Joe Murphy wrote:
There shouldn't be any need to coil an anchor rode. If you think about it, look at what happens on a boat that has a haus pipe on deck at the bow. As the anchor is pulled up the rode is dropped into the haus pipe and down into the anchor locker. It doesn't get coiled and it doesn't ever get wadded up. I like the milk crate idea since it would be pretty easy to wash/ rinse the rode without taking it all out. Joe
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: storage idea
Thanks. Gary On May 15, 2008, at 5:13 PM, JDavies104@aol.com wrote:
I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space.
Rick M-17 Lynne L #633
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The milk crate is ok, but anchor rode on in a mesh bag can live on the foredeck on my M17 and will stay put and dry out there. --Gary On May 17, 2008, at 5:01 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
For many years I have used the same 200' of 1/2" braided nylon for my stern anchor (obviously on a larger boat), and I feed it into a bucket with nary a tangle either direction. In my opinion, braided line is the key, because three-strand is two stiff to deal with without the need for coiling (and the resulting twist). The milk crate is a good idea if it fits better in the space you have, but the container shape doesn't matter much for such supple material.
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of James Poulakis Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:08 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: storage idea
I think that neatly coiling anchor line is the best way to create tangles - especially when it needs to run out FAST. Having said that, I still can't bring myself to just feed it into a container and let it do it's own thing. Instead I flake it down in a figure 8.
If the line is prone to kinkiness to start with, then it needs to be allowed to return to it's natural twist. The easiest way to do this is to get the boat moving at a moderate speed in a (relatively) straight line. Tie off one end of the line and carefully pay out the rest (first take off the chain and anchor of course). The line will return to it's natural state while being towed. Two caveats are: 1) do this somewhere where you have plenty of room and no other traffic. 2) don't get it wrapped up in the prop if you are motoring.
When you bring the line back aboard flake it down in a figure 8. The alternating clockwise and counterclockwise turns of the figure 8 cancel each other out.
I like using a solid plastic container (shallow, rectangular) because if I'm in a hurry I can flake the rode down as quickly as I bring it aboard and the crud stays in the container (well... mostly) . In places with cleaner bottoms a porous container would be better.
Jim Poulakis "Spirit" M-17 #648
On May 16, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Joe Murphy wrote:
There shouldn't be any need to coil an anchor rode. If you think about it, look at what happens on a boat that has a haus pipe on deck at the bow. As the anchor is pulled up the rode is dropped into the haus pipe and down into the anchor locker. It doesn't get coiled and it doesn't ever get wadded up. I like the milk crate idea since it would be pretty easy to wash/ rinse the rode without taking it all out. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary M Hyde" <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: storage idea
Thanks. Gary On May 15, 2008, at 5:13 PM, JDavies104@aol.com wrote:
I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space.
Rick M-17 Lynne L #633
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