A few months ago, I wrote that I must be the slowest rigger anywhere. It took me 3-1/2 hours to setup, rig and launch my 1977 M-17. I got lots of good ideas from y'all, so I thought I'd make a report. I rigged the boat single-handed, and launched in 1-1/2 hours yesterday. Four key changes made the difference. 1) An old army gas mask bag hanging from my shoulder contains all the tools I need, and holds tie-downs, reducing the number of times I have to hop up and down off the deck. 2) I leave the shrouds in their final, adjusted length so I don't have to fiddle with turnbuckles anymore. 3) A lever-action tensioner in the backstay lets me swing the mast just far enough forward of its normal position to easily attach the CDI furler and headstay. 4) a re-designed trailer tongue extension can be attached using no tools. I can't remember who sent me all these ideas, but thanks, thanks, thanks!
Mark, That is great news. Hopefully you can get out on the water more often and spend more time sailing. How did the lever tensioner attach to the back stay? Remind us again what area you sail in? Regards, Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Mark House <itsmark@bresnan.net> wrote:
A few months ago, I wrote that I must be the slowest rigger anywhere. It took me 3-1/2 hours to setup, rig and launch my 1977 M-17. I got lots of good ideas from y'all, so I thought I'd make a report. I rigged the boat single-handed, and launched in 1-1/2 hours yesterday. Four key changes made the difference. 1) An old army gas mask bag hanging from my shoulder contains all the tools I need, and holds tie-downs, reducing the number of times I have to hop up and down off the deck. 2) I leave the shrouds in their final, adjusted length so I don't have to fiddle with turnbuckles anymore. 3) A lever-action tensioner in the backstay lets me swing the mast just far enough forward of its normal position to easily attach the CDI furler and headstay. 4) a re-designed trailer tongue extension can be attached using no tools.
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Bill: Here's a photo. It's a Johnson Quick release Lever model 14205, see the link below. http://www.apsltd.com/c-192-johnson-quick-release-levers.aspx I had to get my backstay shortened about 8 inches to fit the device between the backstay bridle and turnbuckle. It works great. I suppose most folks use the device on the forestay. But that won't work with a furler. So I put it on the backstay. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Launching & Rigging
Mark,
That is great news. Hopefully you can get out on the water more often and spend more time sailing. How did the lever tensioner attach to the back stay? Remind us again what area you sail in?
Regards,
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Mark House <itsmark@bresnan.net> wrote:
A few months ago, I wrote that I must be the slowest rigger anywhere. It took me 3-1/2 hours to setup, rig and launch my 1977 M-17. I got lots of good ideas from y'all, so I thought I'd make a report. I rigged the boat single-handed, and launched in 1-1/2 hours yesterday. Four key changes made the difference. 1) An old army gas mask bag hanging from my shoulder contains all the tools I need, and holds tie-downs, reducing the number of times I have to hop up and down off the deck. 2) I leave the shrouds in their final, adjusted length so I don't have to fiddle with turnbuckles anymore. 3) A lever-action tensioner in the backstay lets me swing the mast just far enough forward of its normal position to easily attach the CDI furler and headstay. 4) a re-designed trailer tongue extension can be attached using no tools.
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That looks like a winner. Thanks Joe SeaFrog M17 ps Bob Eeg, what size backstay did you use on 2008 M17's? jm ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark House To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Launching & Rigging Bill: Here's a photo. It's a Johnson Quick release Lever model 14205, see the link below. http://www.apsltd.com/c-192-johnson-quick-release-levers.aspx I had to get my backstay shortened about 8 inches to fit the device between the backstay bridle and turnbuckle. It works great. I suppose most folks use the device on the forestay. But that won't work with a furler. So I put it on the backstay. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Launching & Rigging
Mark,
That is great news. Hopefully you can get out on the water more often and spend more time sailing. How did the lever tensioner attach to the back stay? Remind us again what area you sail in?
Regards,
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Mark House <itsmark@bresnan.net> wrote:
A few months ago, I wrote that I must be the slowest rigger anywhere. It took me 3-1/2 hours to setup, rig and launch my 1977 M-17. I got lots of good ideas from y'all, so I thought I'd make a report. I rigged the boat single-handed, and launched in 1-1/2 hours yesterday. Four key changes made the difference. 1) An old army gas mask bag hanging from my shoulder contains all the tools I need, and holds tie-downs, reducing the number of times I have to hop up and down off the deck. 2) I leave the shrouds in their final, adjusted length so I don't have to fiddle with turnbuckles anymore. 3) A lever-action tensioner in the backstay lets me swing the mast just far enough forward of its normal position to easily attach the CDI furler and headstay. 4) a re-designed trailer tongue extension can be attached using no tools.
I can't remember who sent me all these ideas, but thanks, thanks, thanks! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Thanks Mark. Glad it works. Just curious, why didn't you just fit a back stay adjuster plate on the split backstay, along with a small tackle? Also made by Johnson. Bill On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Mark House <itsmark@bresnan.net> wrote:
Bill:
Here's a photo. It's a Johnson Quick release Lever model 14205, see the link below.
I had to get my backstay shortened about 8 inches to fit the device between the backstay bridle and turnbuckle. It works great. I suppose most folks use the device on the forestay. But that won't work with a furler. So I put it on the backstay.
Mark
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.** xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Launching & Rigging
Mark,
That is great news. Hopefully you can get out on the water more often and spend more time sailing. How did the lever tensioner attach to the back stay? Remind us again what area you sail in?
Regards,
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Mark House <itsmark@bresnan.net> wrote:
A few months ago, I wrote that I must be the slowest rigger anywhere. It
took me 3-1/2 hours to setup, rig and launch my 1977 M-17. I got lots of good ideas from y'all, so I thought I'd make a report. I rigged the boat single-handed, and launched in 1-1/2 hours yesterday. Four key changes made the difference. 1) An old army gas mask bag hanging from my shoulder contains all the tools I need, and holds tie-downs, reducing the number of times I have to hop up and down off the deck. 2) I leave the shrouds in their final, adjusted length so I don't have to fiddle with turnbuckles anymore. 3) A lever-action tensioner in the backstay lets me swing the mast just far enough forward of its normal position to easily attach the CDI furler and headstay. 4) a re-designed trailer tongue extension can be attached using no tools.
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Bill: I've got a backstay adjuster rig, but never use it. It seems like too much unnecessary stuff to rig.. The quick-release rig just lives there and does nothing, kind of like me! Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Launching & Rigging
Thanks Mark. Glad it works. Just curious, why didn't you just fit a back stay adjuster plate on the split backstay, along with a small tackle? Also made by Johnson.
Bill
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Mark House <itsmark@bresnan.net> wrote:
Bill:
Here's a photo. It's a Johnson Quick release Lever model 14205, see the link below.
I had to get my backstay shortened about 8 inches to fit the device between the backstay bridle and turnbuckle. It works great. I suppose most folks use the device on the forestay. But that won't work with a furler. So I put it on the backstay.
Mark
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.** xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Launching & Rigging
Mark,
That is great news. Hopefully you can get out on the water more often and spend more time sailing. How did the lever tensioner attach to the back stay? Remind us again what area you sail in?
Regards,
Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Mark House <itsmark@bresnan.net> wrote:
A few months ago, I wrote that I must be the slowest rigger anywhere. It
took me 3-1/2 hours to setup, rig and launch my 1977 M-17. I got lots of good ideas from y'all, so I thought I'd make a report. I rigged the boat single-handed, and launched in 1-1/2 hours yesterday. Four key changes made the difference. 1) An old army gas mask bag hanging from my shoulder contains all the tools I need, and holds tie-downs, reducing the number of times I have to hop up and down off the deck. 2) I leave the shrouds in their final, adjusted length so I don't have to fiddle with turnbuckles anymore. 3) A lever-action tensioner in the backstay lets me swing the mast just far enough forward of its normal position to easily attach the CDI furler and headstay. 4) a re-designed trailer tongue extension can be attached using no tools.
I can't remember who sent me all these ideas, but thanks, thanks, thanks! ______________________________**_________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/**cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** montgomery_boats<http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats>
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great to read your update mark. now go sailing!! :-) :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Fri, 9/23/11, Mark House <itsmark@bresnan.net> wrote:
A few months ago, I wrote that I must be the slowest rigger anywhere. It took me 3-1/2 hours to setup, rig and launch my 1977 M-17. I got lots of good ideas from y'all, so I thought I'd make a report. I rigged the boat single-handed, and launched in 1-1/2 hours yesterday. Four key changes made the difference. 1) An old army gas mask bag hanging from my shoulder contains all the tools I need, and holds tie-downs, reducing the number of times I have to hop up and down off the deck. 2) I leave the shrouds in their final, adjusted length so I don't have to fiddle with turnbuckles anymore. 3) A lever-action tensioner in the backstay lets me swing the mast just far enough forward of its normal position to easily attach the CDI furler and headstay. 4) a re-designed trailer tongue extension can be attached using no tools.
I can't remember who sent me all these ideas, but thanks, thanks, thanks!
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