In a message dated 12/20/2005 10:38:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, gmhyde1@mac.com writes: Pacific trailer to go with it weighs 725 pounds according to the folks at Pacific Trailer; so the total weight of empty M17 and Trailer is 1600+725=2325 pounds. Thanks Gary, I put it down at 2300 approximately. So I am pretty close. I need some good on the trailer and off the trailer shots of your new boat. When you do photo her, get me some of the interior, hull, trailer and anything else you would care to click at. I'm currently doing great with using DSL to get my photos, so if you happen to have a high speed connection that is the way to go. Or, let me know and I'll forward an address. And, congratulation on the new boat, I love the name. Bill