First, I'd like to congratulate all of you on your enthusiasm and love of the Montgomery boats. I've been eave-dropping on this forum for about 2 years. The boat's classic appearance and your obvious devotion to the boats caused me to go looking for one. And I found one. Unfortunately, during my first outing with her, I made a rookie mistake and lost the mast. I've purchased the necessary Dwyer replacement mast and parts, but I don't know how to assemble them. I would greatly appreciate it if someone would measure their late model M15 mast and send me the measurements. For example, how far up from the foot of the mast does the hound bolt go? Bob Eeg was very helpful putting me in touch with Dwyer and ensuring that I got the right parts. However, he has been difficult to catch in the shop so he can look up the measurements that I need and give them to me. Consequently, I have a mast and parts, and some vacation time coming, but no idea how to assemble the mast. If you would send me the measurements for the hardware on your mast, I'd happily create a drawing to post on the MSOG site for everyone's future use. Although, I hope you never need it. Losing a mast is a sickening experience. Thanks for you help, Clint M15, "Youngblood, #261, 1983
Lost the mast? Did you try looking under the seat cushions? Sorry, I couldn't resist that. Don't leave us hanging. What kind of rookie mistake wiped out the mast? We'd like to hear the whole story. Congrats on getting a Monty and hope your luck and fun catch up with your enthusiasm. You'll get all the help you need from this list, as you know if you've been lurking for 2 years. Nice to have you with us. Keep us informed on your saga of getting the mast together, and again, good luck. Bill Day Comcast Mail wrote:
First, I'd like to congratulate all of you on your enthusiasm and love of the Montgomery boats. I've been eave-dropping on this forum for about 2 years. The boat's classic appearance and your obvious devotion to the boats caused me to go looking for one. And I found one.
Unfortunately, during my first outing with her, I made a rookie mistake and lost the mast. I've purchased the necessary Dwyer replacement mast and parts, but I don't know how to assemble them. I would greatly appreciate it if someone would measure their late model M15 mast and send me the measurements. For example, how far up from the foot of the mast does the hound bolt go?
Bob Eeg was very helpful putting me in touch with Dwyer and ensuring that I got the right parts. However, he has been difficult to catch in the shop so he can look up the measurements that I need and give them to me. Consequently, I have a mast and parts, and some vacation time coming, but no idea how to assemble the mast.
If you would send me the measurements for the hardware on your mast, I'd happily create a drawing to post on the MSOG site for everyone's future use. Although, I hope you never need it. Losing a mast is a sickening experience.
Thanks for you help,
Clint
M15, "Youngblood, #261, 1983
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Hi Clint Glad to help you with the Dwyer Mast and parts you needed. The only measurement that I can give you that we use is the hole for the hound assembly. Its 173 inches from the base of the mast. (To the bolt hole) Because of the slight differences between Jerry's boats and mine I would recommend having Jerry build the standing and running rigging. The hound assembly we use is different from the system Jerry used. Also the tack plate is different. So there might be a slight difference in the lengths. I would install the hound assembly and raise the mast using 1/4 inch yacht braid line. Get the mast upright and straight and mark the lines to get the lengths. Have Jerry then make the rig. Have him install a marine eye on both ends. (to fit the hound assembly we use) Instead of a thimbled loop at the top and marine eye at the bottom. On the headstay I like to upsize the wire to 5/32 instead of 1/8th inch because the CDI Furler works better with the larger wire (future installation). Its not a big deal though. www.jerrymontgomery.org Also the main and jib halyard has to be swaged after it is run thru the masthead (for the main halyard) and the jib block (for the jib halyard) So buy yourself a swaging tool (wrench and bolt type). Only after you install the main and jib halyard can you install the 2 cleats and eyestraps. Fair winds Bob Comcast Mail wrote:
First, I'd like to congratulate all of you on your enthusiasm and love of the Montgomery boats. I've been eave-dropping on this forum for about 2 years. The boat's classic appearance and your obvious devotion to the boats caused me to go looking for one. And I found one.
Unfortunately, during my first outing with her, I made a rookie mistake and lost the mast. I've purchased the necessary Dwyer replacement mast and parts, but I don't know how to assemble them. I would greatly appreciate it if someone would measure their late model M15 mast and send me the measurements. For example, how far up from the foot of the mast does the hound bolt go?
Bob Eeg was very helpful putting me in touch with Dwyer and ensuring that I got the right parts. However, he has been difficult to catch in the shop so he can look up the measurements that I need and give them to me. Consequently, I have a mast and parts, and some vacation time coming, but no idea how to assemble the mast.
If you would send me the measurements for the hardware on your mast, I'd happily create a drawing to post on the MSOG site for everyone's future use. Although, I hope you never need it. Losing a mast is a sickening experience.
Thanks for you help,
Clint
M15, "Youngblood, #261, 1983
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Bob, Thanks for all of your help. I sincerely appreciate it. Can you tell me how the jib halyard mounts to the mast? You recommended that I buy the DH 908 cheek block, which I did, but where do I mount it? Wouldn't an eye strap and bullet block be a better arrangement? Thanks again, Clint M15, "Youngblood", #261, 1983 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+clint.hill=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+clint.hill=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com ] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:13 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing an M15 Mast Hi Clint Glad to help you with the Dwyer Mast and parts you needed. The only measurement that I can give you that we use is the hole for the hound assembly. Its 173 inches from the base of the mast. (To the bolt hole) Because of the slight differences between Jerry's boats and mine I would recommend having Jerry build the standing and running rigging. The hound assembly we use is different from the system Jerry used. Also the tack plate is different. So there might be a slight difference in the lengths. I would install the hound assembly and raise the mast using 1/4 inch yacht braid line. Get the mast upright and straight and mark the lines to get the lengths. Have Jerry then make the rig. Have him install a marine eye on both ends. (to fit the hound assembly we use) Instead of a thimbled loop at the top and marine eye at the bottom. On the headstay I like to upsize the wire to 5/32 instead of 1/8th inch because the CDI Furler works better with the larger wire (future installation). Its not a big deal though. www.jerrymontgomery.org Also the main and jib halyard has to be swaged after it is run thru the masthead (for the main halyard) and the jib block (for the jib halyard) So buy yourself a swaging tool (wrench and bolt type). Only after you install the main and jib halyard can you install the 2 cleats and eyestraps. Fair winds Bob Comcast Mail wrote:
First, I'd like to congratulate all of you on your enthusiasm and love of the Montgomery boats. I've been eave-dropping on this forum for about 2 years. The boat's classic appearance and your obvious devotion to the boats caused me to go looking for one. And I found one.
Unfortunately, during my first outing with her, I made a rookie mistake and lost the mast. I've purchased the necessary Dwyer replacement mast and parts, but I don't know how to assemble them. I would greatly appreciate it if someone would measure their late model M15 mast and send me the measurements. For example, how far up from the foot of the mast does the hound bolt go?
Bob Eeg was very helpful putting me in touch with Dwyer and ensuring that I got the right parts. However, he has been difficult to catch in the shop so he can look up the measurements that I need and give them to me. Consequently, I have a mast and parts, and some vacation time coming, but no idea how to assemble the mast.
If you would send me the measurements for the hardware on your mast, I'd happily create a drawing to post on the MSOG site for everyone's future use. Although, I hope you never need it. Losing a mast is a sickening experience.
Thanks for you help,
Clint
M15, "Youngblood, #261, 1983
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Hi Clint I've seen it both ways. I drill and tap (with 4 machine screws) a DH 908 cheek block, just below the hound and off set enough (to the port side) so the jib halyard can hoist the sail up the headstay and make a left turn thru the block and straight down the mast to the cleat. Look for a ' fair ' run. I use a combination wire and rope halyard. I have seen an eye strap with a bullet block like you mentioned. (one difference is the eyestrap only has two machine screws instead of 4 for the cheek block. But it shouldn't make a difference as long as you drill and tap) For personal reasons I dislike pop rivets; however they seem to work fine. I prefer to drill and tap using #10 stainless fasteners, although it is labor intensive. An advantage is you can remove the part without drilling the rivet out. tapping thin wall aluminum is easy BUT don't over tighten the fastener or it can strip out. I also like to put some caulking underneath the stainless fastener (then wipe off the excess). Just don't over tighten. Up snug is good. I also like the idea of all rope halyards. That would make your job easy. Otherwise you have to have a swaging tool to connect the wire to the rope. (after you run it through the masthead and jib block). I think its really your choice. I thought Connie's email about his mast covered everything very well. (although I install the 5/16 mast pin and inch and three quarters up from the base. Also you will want to file a small radius on the backside bottom of the mast so it will pivot forward without digging) Take your new maststep and hold it up to see what the location will be. Good luck and fair winds Bob Comcast Mail wrote:
Bob,
Thanks for all of your help. I sincerely appreciate it.
Can you tell me how the jib halyard mounts to the mast? You recommended that I buy the DH 908 cheek block, which I did, but where do I mount it? Wouldn't an eye strap and bullet block be a better arrangement?
Thanks again,
Clint M15, "Youngblood", #261, 1983
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+clint.hill=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+clint.hill=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com ] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:13 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Replacing an M15 Mast
Hi Clint
Glad to help you with the Dwyer Mast and parts you needed.
The only measurement that I can give you that we use is the hole for the hound assembly.
Its 173 inches from the base of the mast. (To the bolt hole)
Because of the slight differences between Jerry's boats and mine I would recommend having Jerry build the standing and running rigging. The hound assembly we use is different from the system Jerry used. Also the tack plate is different. So there might be a slight difference in the lengths.
I would install the hound assembly and raise the mast using 1/4 inch yacht braid line. Get the mast upright and straight and mark the lines to get the lengths.
Have Jerry then make the rig. Have him install a marine eye on both ends. (to fit the hound assembly we use) Instead of a thimbled loop at the top and marine eye at the bottom. On the headstay I like to upsize the wire to 5/32 instead of 1/8th inch because the CDI Furler works better with the larger wire (future installation). Its not a big deal though.
www.jerrymontgomery.org
Also the main and jib halyard has to be swaged after it is run thru the masthead (for the main halyard) and the jib block (for the jib halyard) So buy yourself a swaging tool (wrench and bolt type). Only after you install the main and jib halyard can you install the 2 cleats and eyestraps.
Fair winds Bob
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First, I'd like to congratulate all of you on your enthusiasm and love of the Montgomery boats. I've been eave-dropping on this forum for about 2 years. The boat's classic appearance and your obvious devotion to the
boats
caused me to go looking for one. And I found one.
Unfortunately, during my first outing with her, I made a rookie mistake and lost the mast. I've purchased the necessary Dwyer replacement mast and parts, but I don't know how to assemble them. I would greatly appreciate
it
if someone would measure their late model M15 mast and send me the measurements. For example, how far up from the foot of the mast does the hound bolt go?
Bob Eeg was very helpful putting me in touch with Dwyer and ensuring that I got the right parts. However, he has been difficult to catch in the shop
so
he can look up the measurements that I need and give them to me. Consequently, I have a mast and parts, and some vacation time coming, but
no
idea how to assemble the mast.
If you would send me the measurements for the hardware on your mast, I'd happily create a drawing to post on the MSOG site for everyone's future
use.
Although, I hope you never need it. Losing a mast is a sickening experience.
Thanks for you help,
Clint
M15, "Youngblood, #261, 1983
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