HI: I probably put this under the wrong subject line. Anyway, Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom all the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a week). However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. Is that unwise? The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat trailer and keep taking it on and off. Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It seems to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor. Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the road with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in the back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. Steve M-15- 335 -----Original Message----- From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Cc: Peter Zimowsky Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom HI: I probably put this under the wrong subject line. Anyway, Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom all the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a week). However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. Is that unwise? The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat trailer and keep taking it on and off. Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It seems to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor. Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. Does require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of the boat. I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Haul time. George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails" On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the road with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in the back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. Steve M-15- 335
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Cc: Peter Zimowsky Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom
HI: I probably put this under the wrong subject line. Anyway,
Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom all the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a week). However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. Is that unwise? The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat trailer and keep taking it on and off. Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It seems to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
When I last painted my M-17(#888 Scooby Doo), I installed a larger and stouter motor mount on the transom, but am still nervous about damaging the transom (or the motor mount) by leaving the outboard there when traveling. Although I’m not yet retired, the pandemic has given me lots of time to spend on sailboat projects, so I built the motor mount described in the attached. No more worries about the motor mount or transom or about gas fumes in the car.
On Apr 2, 2021, at 3:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. Does require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of the boat. I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Haul time. George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the road with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in the back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. Steve M-15- 335
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Cc: Peter Zimowsky Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom
HI: I probably put this under the wrong subject line. Anyway,
Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom all the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a week). However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. Is that unwise? The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat trailer and keep taking it on and off. Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It seems to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
Nice...I carry my motor in my vehicle, so far, but if I were wanting an alternative I would do something like this, or what someone else posted, to have a motor mount bracket somewhere near the front of the trailer. It's a reasonable location because it has less motion/bouncing in most cases when towing, compared to the transom. cheers, John On 4/2/21 3:14 PM, Edward Cazier wrote:
When I last painted my M-17(#888 Scooby Doo), I installed a larger and stouter motor mount on the transom, but am still nervous about damaging the transom (or the motor mount) by leaving the outboard there when traveling. Although I’m not yet retired, the pandemic has given me lots of time to spend on sailboat projects, so I built the motor mount described in the attached. No more worries about the motor mount or transom or about gas fumes in the car.
On Apr 2, 2021, at 3:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. Does require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of the boat. I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Haul time. George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the road with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in the back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. Steve M-15- 335
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Cc: Peter Zimowsky Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom
HI: I probably put this under the wrong subject line. Anyway,
Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom all the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a week). However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. Is that unwise? The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat trailer and keep taking it on and off. Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It seems to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Good going George! Thank you. At 81 I keep wondering “what the hell” when I read someone has given up sailing because of age. As to motor mounts and removing motor for trailering causes me to reflect on my trailering and not removing motor to do so. Never crossed my mind to do so. Not with a M17 but I have trailered thousands of miles, twice across US, with a motor on a mount. Of course we should do what we think best but I am lazy and if I had to remove a motor every time I wanted to sail that would cause me to do more kayaking or bicycling. I gave up big boats because all the work with them and being in a marina. I chose a little boat where I just sail and worry about nothing. As a new M17 owner, because of cabin, this site, which I enjoy, and all the issues I read causes me to wonder if a M17 is really the trouble free boat I wanted when I bought it. Owned many boat but have been loyal to my Drascombe Lugger 40 years because it is so simple. I planned for the same with the M17. Confess to doubting I’ll get 40 years with it and have no desire to be concerned with constant problems to fix. My motor stays on the mount, all the time, and doubt anyone could convince me to do other wise. Of course no one has ever accused me of being overly smart. Charlie Sent from my iPad
On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com> wrote:Ross
I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. Does require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of theread boat. I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Hauld going time. George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the road with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in the back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. Steve M-15- 335
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Cc: Peter Zimowsky Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom
HI: I probably put this under the wrong subject line. Anyway,
Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom all the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a week). However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. Is that unwise? The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat trailer and keep taking it on and off. Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It seems to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
Charlie, I am a youngster at 76, but I may have to give up sailing because of my arthritis which may interfere with my hauling the halyard, or trimming the sheets, or starting the motor to get back to shore when those things happen on my M-15. When a person reaches a point that they can no longer do what needs to be done, it is time to retire from the activity, regardless of age. This coming season will tell. Steve M-15 335 -----Original Message----- From: Charles Adams via montgomery_boats Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 7:18 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Cc: Charles Adams Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom Good going George! Thank you. At 81 I keep wondering “what the hell” when I read someone has given up sailing because of age. As to motor mounts and removing motor for trailering causes me to reflect on my trailering and not removing motor to do so. Never crossed my mind to do so. Not with a M17 but I have trailered thousands of miles, twice across US, with a motor on a mount. Of course we should do what we think best but I am lazy and if I had to remove a motor every time I wanted to sail that would cause me to do more kayaking or bicycling. I gave up big boats because all the work with them and being in a marina. I chose a little boat where I just sail and worry about nothing. As a new M17 owner, because of cabin, this site, which I enjoy, and all the issues I read causes me to wonder if a M17 is really the trouble free boat I wanted when I bought it. Owned many boat but have been loyal to my Drascombe Lugger 40 years because it is so simple. I planned for the same with the M17. Confess to doubting I’ll get 40 years with it and have no desire to be concerned with constant problems to fix. My motor stays on the mount, all the time, and doubt anyone could convince me to do other wise. Of course no one has ever accused me of being overly smart. Charlie Sent from my iPad
On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com> wrote:Ross
I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. Does require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of theread boat. I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Hauld going time. George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the road with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in the back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. Steve M-15- 335
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Cc: Peter Zimowsky Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom
HI: I probably put this under the wrong subject line. Anyway,
Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom all the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a week). However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. Is that unwise? The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat trailer and keep taking it on and off. Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It seems to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
I am a new owner of an M15 which I bought just before pandemic but never yet had a chance to sail. Keeping it at a sailing club on Lake Pymatuning on Ohio Penn border. I have a Minn Kota 55 which I will use as a kicker, like a number of folks at the club. Should be OK. Questions about the transom mount and outboards are interesting. I love the M15 but the mount is ugly. If I had to mount and remove the motor every time I trailed it, I think I'd reconsider the boat. Like Charlie, I once owned a Drascombe. It was a Dabber. If I could find another one, I'd buy it. Drascombe's are simple, capable and very well built. I had a Mariner OB and never thought about any strain in the stern because the inboard mounting was so strong. Rimas (Ray) Aukstuolis. On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 2:54 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Charlie, I am a youngster at 76, but I may have to give up sailing because of my arthritis which may interfere with my hauling the halyard, or trimming the sheets, or starting the motor to get back to shore when those things happen on my M-15. When a person reaches a point that they can no longer do what needs to be done, it is time to retire from the activity, regardless of age. This coming season will tell. Steve M-15 335
-----Original Message----- From: Charles Adams via montgomery_boats Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 7:18 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Cc: Charles Adams Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom
Good going George! Thank you. At 81 I keep wondering “what the hell” when I read someone has given up sailing because of age.
As to motor mounts and removing motor for trailering causes me to reflect on my trailering and not removing motor to do so. Never crossed my mind to do so. Not with a M17 but I have trailered thousands of miles, twice across US, with a motor on a mount. Of course we should do what we think best but I am lazy and if I had to remove a motor every time I wanted to sail that would cause me to do more kayaking or bicycling. I gave up big boats because all the work with them and being in a marina. I chose a little boat where I just sail and worry about nothing. As a new M17 owner, because of cabin, this site, which I enjoy, and all the issues I read causes me to wonder if a M17 is really the trouble free boat I wanted when I bought it. Owned many boat but have been loyal to my Drascombe Lugger 40 years because it is so simple. I planned for the same with the M17. Confess to doubting I’ll get 40 years with it and have no desire to be concerned with constant problems to fix.
My motor stays on the mount, all the time, and doubt anyone could convince me to do other wise. Of course no one has ever accused me of being overly smart.
Charlie
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com> wrote:Ross
I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. Does require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of theread boat. I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Hauld going time. George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the road with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in the back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. Steve M-15- 335
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Cc: Peter Zimowsky Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom
HI: I probably put this under the wrong subject line. Anyway,
Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom all the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a week). However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. Is that unwise? The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat trailer and keep taking it on and off. Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It seems to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
participants (7)
-
Charles Adams -
Edward Cazier -
George Iemmolo -
John Schinnerer -
Peter Zimowsky -
Rimantas Aukstuolis -
Steve Trapp