I did not try my IdaSailor rudder (2007 vintage) until yesterday, and I too discovered that the 48" tiller reaches 3" past the mainsheet. I have not tried it on the water, but I assume I would have to steer with the tiller raised, and raise it up to the boom for tacking. I can shorten the base about 2" without making a hokey setup, but that is not enough. I would be interested to know why the tiller is so much longer than it is on the stock rudder, and how you folks have solved the problem. I certainly don't want to cut off the nice knob on the fore end. Thanks, Tom Jenkins 2004 M17
Tom We cut off 3 inches on the aft end. Re-drill the 1/4 inch holes. Not a problem. Bob
From: tjenk@gte.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 13:10:13 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: tiller length
I did not try my IdaSailor rudder (2007 vintage) until yesterday, and I too discovered that the 48" tiller reaches 3" past the mainsheet. I have not tried it on the water, but I assume I would have to steer with the tiller raised, and raise it up to the boom for tacking. I can shorten the base about 2" without making a hokey setup, but that is not enough. I would be interested to know why the tiller is so much longer than it is on the stock rudder, and how you folks have solved the problem. I certainly don't want to cut off the nice knob on the fore end.
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Tom, I had the same problem. I cut the end off just about where the routing begins. It is fine now. I agree, you don't want to cut off the other end. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: M_Boats: tiller length
I did not try my IdaSailor rudder (2007 vintage) until yesterday, and I too discovered that the 48" tiller reaches 3" past the mainsheet. I have not tried it on the water, but I assume I would have to steer with the tiller raised, and raise it up to the boom for tacking. I can shorten the base about 2" without making a hokey setup, but that is not enough. I would be interested to know why the tiller is so much longer than it is on the stock rudder, and how you folks have solved the problem. I certainly don't want to cut off the nice knob on the fore end.
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Joe, As nearly as I can tell, you are cutting off 7", which makes the tiller reach forward about one inch further than the tiller on the stock wooden rudder (the stock tiller is mounted further back with respect to the pivot point). Since I got Bob's email first, I had already whacked off 3" and varnished the new end, so I will give it a try. If it hits the mainsheet, I will go the whole 7". Thanks to you and Bob for the advice! Tom Jenkins 2004 M17 Scintilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: tiller length
Tom, I had the same problem. I cut the end off just about where the routing begins. It is fine now. I agree, you don't want to cut off the other end. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: M_Boats: tiller length
I did not try my IdaSailor rudder (2007 vintage) until yesterday, and I too discovered that the 48" tiller reaches 3" past the mainsheet. I have not tried it on the water, but I assume I would have to steer with the tiller raised, and raise it up to the boom for tacking. I can shorten the base about 2" without making a hokey setup, but that is not enough. I would be interested to know why the tiller is so much longer than it is on the stock rudder, and how you folks have solved the problem. I certainly don't want to cut off the nice knob on the fore end.
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Tom, No, No, I didn't chop of 7". It was somewhere between 2 and 3 inches max. I think with you cutting of 3" you will be just fine. Maybe our tillers are designed a little different. Stick with 3" and I'm sure you'll be fine. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 6:07 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: tiller length
Joe,
As nearly as I can tell, you are cutting off 7", which makes the tiller reach forward about one inch further than the tiller on the stock wooden rudder (the stock tiller is mounted further back with respect to the pivot point). Since I got Bob's email first, I had already whacked off 3" and varnished the new end, so I will give it a try. If it hits the mainsheet, I will go the whole 7". Thanks to you and Bob for the advice!
Tom Jenkins 2004 M17 Scintilla
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: tiller length
Tom, I had the same problem. I cut the end off just about where the routing begins. It is fine now. I agree, you don't want to cut off the other end. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: M_Boats: tiller length
I did not try my IdaSailor rudder (2007 vintage) until yesterday, and I too discovered that the 48" tiller reaches 3" past the mainsheet. I have not tried it on the water, but I assume I would have to steer with the tiller raised, and raise it up to the boom for tacking. I can shorten the base about 2" without making a hokey setup, but that is not enough. I would be interested to know why the tiller is so much longer than it is on the stock rudder, and how you folks have solved the problem. I certainly don't want to cut off the nice knob on the fore end.
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