Hi Bille... I'll go along with Connie.... the 2hp will be fine to get in and out of a slip, and in modest waters. I once used a 36 pound thrust trolling motor to get in/out of the slip while my Evinrude was being repaired. I didn't get out into the open waters of Lake Lanier... what I'd call modest waters, but it didn'thave the umpff to push it up the trailer like the Evinrude did...or even my 3hp Seagull. I'd consider where you sail and where you may _want _ to sail then decide. If you're running against tides or bucking high waves, 4 or even 6 hp may be necessary. The previous owner of Stargazer sailed in the Gulf of Mexico off Ft. Myers, Fla. He had a 8hp.... perhaps a bit of overkill, but it's the same size and weight as the 6hp. model. And he always made it home. Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294
Thanks Harvey, I think that I am convinced. I am looking seriously at eh Tohatsu 4-stroke 4HP. I like the fact that it has the ability to charge the battery, an internal tank for short days, and an external for longer trips. Thank all of you for your input. You are a great group to be associated with. Bill On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 09:08 PM, Harvey Wilson wrote:
Hi Bille...
I'll go along with Connie.... the 2hp will be fine to get in and out of a slip, and in modest waters.
I once used a 36 pound thrust trolling motor to get in/out of the slip while my Evinrude was being repaired. I didn't get out into the open waters of Lake Lanier... what I'd call modest waters, but it didn'thave the umpff to push it up the trailer like the Evinrude did...or even my 3hp Seagull.
I'd consider where you sail and where you may _want _ to sail then decide. If you're running against tides or bucking high waves, 4 or even 6 hp may be necessary. The previous owner of Stargazer sailed in the Gulf of Mexico off Ft. Myers, Fla. He had a 8hp.... perhaps a bit of overkill, but it's the same size and weight as the 6hp. model. And he always made it home.
Harvey/ Ga
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Bill, The Tohatsu would be my choice too. Make sure you have service available in your area as there aren't as many Tohatsu dealers around as other makes. Jesse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 12:06 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Seagull
Thanks Harvey,
I think that I am convinced. I am looking seriously at eh Tohatsu 4-stroke 4HP. I like the fact that it has the ability to charge the battery, an internal tank for short days, and an external for longer trips.
Thank all of you for your input. You are a great group to be associated with.
Bill On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 09:08 PM, Harvey Wilson wrote:
Hi Bille...
I'll go along with Connie.... the 2hp will be fine to get in and out of a slip, and in modest waters.
I once used a 36 pound thrust trolling motor to get in/out of the slip while my Evinrude was being repaired. I didn't get out into the open waters of Lake Lanier... what I'd call modest waters, but it didn'thave the umpff to push it up the trailer like the Evinrude did...or even my 3hp Seagull.
I'd consider where you sail and where you may _want _ to sail then decide. If you're running against tides or bucking high waves, 4 or even 6 hp may be necessary. The previous owner of Stargazer sailed in the Gulf of Mexico off Ft. Myers, Fla. He had a 8hp.... perhaps a bit of overkill, but it's the same size and weight as the 6hp. model. And he always made it home.
Harvey/ Ga
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Jesse, There is a dealer about 5 miles from my house. I have found an internet site: http://www.onlineoutboards.com/# where the prices seem good. I will give my dealer a chance to match or come close to the price. I still have to get the old boat home to get it ready for my first sail as her owner. This will happen when the present owner can locate the trailer and sell the slip that the boat is in. There is a service here that will scrape the bottom while she is still in the slip for a very reasonable price. I think I will take advantage of that so that I don't end up with a pile of smelly mussels in my yard. Thanks for the support. Bill On Monday, May 26, 2003, at 07:57 AM, Jesse Tate wrote:
Bill,
The Tohatsu would be my choice too. Make sure you have service available in your area as there aren't as many Tohatsu dealers around as other makes.
Jesse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 12:06 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Seagull
Thanks Harvey,
I think that I am convinced. I am looking seriously at eh Tohatsu 4-stroke 4HP. I like the fact that it has the ability to charge the battery, an internal tank for short days, and an external for longer trips.
Thank all of you for your input. You are a great group to be associated with.
Bill On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 09:08 PM, Harvey Wilson wrote:
Hi Bille...
I'll go along with Connie.... the 2hp will be fine to get in and out of a slip, and in modest waters.
I once used a 36 pound thrust trolling motor to get in/out of the slip while my Evinrude was being repaired. I didn't get out into the open waters of Lake Lanier... what I'd call modest waters, but it didn'thave the umpff to push it up the trailer like the Evinrude did...or even my 3hp Seagull.
I'd consider where you sail and where you may _want _ to sail then decide. If you're running against tides or bucking high waves, 4 or even 6 hp may be necessary. The previous owner of Stargazer sailed in the Gulf of Mexico off Ft. Myers, Fla. He had a 8hp.... perhaps a bit of overkill, but it's the same size and weight as the 6hp. model. And he always made it home.
Harvey/ Ga
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The Mercury and Nissan are Tohatsus . . . I know West Marine markets Mercury: Perhaps they'd service the Tohatsu? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Tate" <gunsblazing@charter.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: Seagull Bill, The Tohatsu would be my choice too. Make sure you have service available in your area as there aren't as many Tohatsu dealers around as other makes. Jesse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 12:06 AM Subject: Seagull Thanks Harvey, I think that I am convinced. I am looking seriously at eh Tohatsu 4-stroke 4HP. I like the fact that it has the ability to charge the battery, an internal tank for short days, and an external for longer trips. Thank all of you for your input. You are a great group to be associated with. Bill -------------- On Sunday, May 25, 2003, at 09:08 PM, Harvey Wilson wrote: Hi Bill ... I'll go along with Connie.... the 2hp will be fine to get in and out of a slip, and in modest waters. I once used a 36 pound thrust trolling motor to get in/out of the slip while my Evinrude was being repaired. I didn't get out into the open waters of Lake Lanier... what I'd call modest waters, but it didn'thave the umpff to push it up the trailer like the Evinrude did...or even my 3hp Seagull. I'd consider where you sail and where you may _want _ to sail then decide. If you're running against tides or bucking high waves, 4 or even 6 hp may be necessary. The previous owner of Stargazer sailed in the Gulf of Mexico off Ft. Myers, Fla. He had a 8hp.... perhaps a bit of overkill, but it's the same size and weight as the 6hp. model. And he always made it home. Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294
Everyone knows that the M15 is a Jerry Montgomery design, right? Per the "Small Boat Journal" article on the MSOG site, "Montgomery 15 vs Com-Pac 16, Budget Microcruisers" by Larry Brown: "Montgomery Marine started off building tough little dinghies in lapstrake fiberglass but later forged beyond the dinghy business when it engaged the services of Lyle Hess to design a very seaworthv l7-foot boat. As the Montgomery 17 quietly built its reputation on the West Coast, Jerry Montgomery scaled down Hess's design, added a kick-up rudder and some other changes, and the Montgomery 15 was born."
I'm glad you mentioned the Evinrude, Harvey: Gives me a segue for what I wanted to write. I went sailing last night on a friend's Sandpiper 565 (a very unique 18' pocket cruiser that was built in Canada, has a daggerboard raised and lowered with a screw) that has a '73/'74 vintage 6-horse 2-stroke Evinrude for auxiliary power. This old Evinrude is the quietest 2-stroke I have ever heard. I was amazed. We barely had to raise our voices above the motor as we taxied out of the launch area. My friend bought his boat and motor last spring: The boat hadn't been sailed, motor hadn't been started, since '83. My friend had the motor tuned at a small engine shop last year and used it twice last season. It starts on the 2nd pull and runs VERY quietly with VERY LITTLE vibration. I'm flummoxed. And impressed. I still prefer the 4-stroke for low emissions and fuel economy, but if my new Nissan 4-stroke 4-horse runs even close to as quiet with even close to the same low vibration level, I'll be very happy. Any insights from anyone as to why this old motor is so quiet? --Craig, chonshell@ia4u.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Wilson" <HarveyWilson@compuserve.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 12:08 AM Subject: Seagull Hi Bille... I'll go along with Connie.... the 2hp will be fine to get in and out of a slip, and in modest waters. I once used a 36 pound thrust trolling motor to get in/out of the slip while my Evinrude was being repaired. I didn't get out into the open waters of Lake Lanier... what I'd call modest waters, but it didn'thave the umpff to push it up the trailer like the Evinrude did...or even my 3hp Seagull. I'd consider where you sail and where you may _want _ to sail then decide. If you're running against tides or bucking high waves, 4 or even 6 hp may be necessary. The previous owner of Stargazer sailed in the Gulf of Mexico off Ft. Myers, Fla. He had a 8hp.... perhaps a bit of overkill, but it's the same size and weight as the 6hp. model. And he always made it home. Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294
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