Hi Steve, I've tried reaching the M-15 owners in White City and Klamath Falls, but the one in White City doesn't respond to my emails, and the one in Klamath Falls doesn't seem to be there anymore, and hasn't left an email address. I'd sure like to see one of the boats in the flesh, but so far all I've seen is a partially assembled one at the factory in Ontario. Kind of frustrating. But thanks for responding to my post. David =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David W. Wood -=- dwood@woodatwork.com (541) 488-5519 -=- Fax (541) 488-5521 History would be wonderful--if it were only true --Tolstoy