RE: M_Boats: Re: New old M-17
I use a long shaft Honda 2 on an M17. I believe it's all the ob power that's required, and up to the job in conditions beyond calm water. You just learn the limitations of a smaller motor and abide by the rules. Our M17 is a '75 with the transom cutout, but the motor is mounted on an adjustable bracket and very easy to raise and lower. There doesn't seem to be any clearance problems motor to rudder. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sylvester [mailto:wmcsyl1@cox.net] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:36 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Re: New old M-17 Connie, If I understand correctly, you have a Honda BF2. How would it work on our M-17 as a calm water kicker? I am concerned about a bigger motor interfering with the action of the rudder. When we brought the boat from the slip to the trailer, we used a 50lb thrust Minn Kota that is presently with the boat. We never used more than half of the power and everything was OK. I know this question has been kicked around by this group for a long time. I feel that I can actually use the outboard cutout on the transom if the motor is small enough. What do you think, will the BF2 cut it? Have you heard of the new Honda BF 2.3? Bill Endelig M-17 #279 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats This message was scanned for viruses!!
Tom, I am glad to get your reply. If you were to use the transom cutout for the Honda, would there be enough clearance for the rudder and tiller? I am hoping to be able to avoid using(buying and installing) an adjustable bracket unless I have to. Thanks, Bill Endelig M-17 #279 On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 10:18 AM, Smith, Tom wrote:
I use a long shaft Honda 2 on an M17. I believe it's all the ob power that's required, and up to the job in conditions beyond calm water. You just learn the limitations of a smaller motor and abide by the rules. Our M17 is a '75 with the transom cutout, but the motor is mounted on an adjustable bracket and very easy to raise and lower. There doesn't seem to be any clearance problems motor to rudder. t
Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Sylvester [mailto:wmcsyl1@cox.net] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:36 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Re: New old M-17
Connie,
If I understand correctly, you have a Honda BF2. How would it work on our M-17 as a calm water kicker? I am concerned about a bigger motor interfering with the action of the rudder. When we brought the boat from the slip to the trailer, we used a 50lb thrust Minn Kota that is presently with the boat. We never used more than half of the power and everything was OK. I know this question has been kicked around by this group for a long time. I feel that I can actually use the outboard cutout on the transom if the motor is small enough. What do you think, will the BF2 cut it? Have you heard of the new Honda BF 2.3?
Bill Endelig M-17 #279
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I have the Honda 2HP long shaft mounted on the transom cut out. It can get in the way of the rudder. I have found that if I simultaneously move the tiller controlling the rudder with the tiller that controls the outboard, then the prop doesn't hit the rudder. That is to say, both tillers are held parallel. Also, putting the rudder hard over to the port side (tiller hard over to starboard) is a no-no. However, in the space that I have to maneuver, that isn't required. Like Tom said, I have found that engine to be all that I have ever needed. Dan White M-17 #316B Bill Sylvester wrote:
Tom,
I am glad to get your reply. If you were to use the transom cutout for the Honda, would there be enough clearance for the rudder and tiller? I am hoping to be able to avoid using(buying and installing) an adjustable bracket unless I have to.
Thanks,
Bill Endelig M-17 #279
On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 10:18 AM, Smith, Tom wrote:
I use a long shaft Honda 2 on an M17. I believe it's all the ob power that's required, and up to the job in conditions beyond calm water. You just learn the limitations of a smaller motor and abide by the rules. Our M17 is a '75 with the transom cutout, but the motor is mounted on an adjustable bracket and very easy to raise and lower. There doesn't seem to be any clearance problems motor to rudder. t
Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Sylvester [mailto:wmcsyl1@cox.net] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:36 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Re: New old M-17
Connie,
If I understand correctly, you have a Honda BF2. How would it work on our M-17 as a calm water kicker? I am concerned about a bigger motor interfering with the action of the rudder. When we brought the boat from the slip to the trailer, we used a 50lb thrust Minn Kota that is presently with the boat. We never used more than half of the power and everything was OK. I know this question has been kicked around by this group for a long time. I feel that I can actually use the outboard cutout on the transom if the motor is small enough. What do you think, will the BF2 cut it? Have you heard of the new Honda BF 2.3?
Bill Endelig M-17 #279
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Dan, While sailing and the motor is tipped up, is the movement of the rudder still impeded? Thanks, Bill On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 11:42 AM, Dan White wrote:
I have the Honda 2HP long shaft mounted on the transom cut out. It can get in the way of the rudder. I have found that if I simultaneously move the tiller controlling the rudder with the tiller that controls the outboard, then the prop doesn't hit the rudder. That is to say, both tillers are held parallel. Also, putting the rudder hard over to the port side (tiller hard over to starboard) is a no-no. However, in the space that I have to maneuver, that isn't required. Like Tom said, I have found that engine to be all that I have ever needed.
Dan White M-17 #316B
Bill Sylvester wrote:
Tom,
I am glad to get your reply. If you were to use the transom cutout for the Honda, would there be enough clearance for the rudder and tiller? I am hoping to be able to avoid using(buying and installing) an adjustable bracket unless I have to.
Thanks,
Bill Endelig M-17 #279
On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 10:18 AM, Smith, Tom wrote:
I use a long shaft Honda 2 on an M17. I believe it's all the ob power that's required, and up to the job in conditions beyond calm water. You just learn the limitations of a smaller motor and abide by the rules. Our M17 is a '75 with the transom cutout, but the motor is mounted on an adjustable bracket and very easy to raise and lower. There doesn't seem to be any clearance problems motor to rudder. t
Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Sylvester [mailto:wmcsyl1@cox.net] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:36 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Re: New old M-17
Connie,
If I understand correctly, you have a Honda BF2. How would it work on our M-17 as a calm water kicker? I am concerned about a bigger motor interfering with the action of the rudder. When we brought the boat from the slip to the trailer, we used a 50lb thrust Minn Kota that is presently with the boat. We never used more than half of the power and everything was OK. I know this question has been kicked around by this group for a long time. I feel that I can actually use the outboard cutout on the transom if the motor is small enough. What do you think, will the BF2 cut it? Have you heard of the new Honda BF 2.3?
Bill Endelig M-17 #279
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Didn't realize hulls as late as #316 had transom cut-outs . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan White" <danwhite@austin.rr.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:42 PM Subject: New old M-17 I have the Honda 2HP long shaft mounted on the transom cut out. It can get in the way of the rudder. I have found that if I simultaneously move the tiller controlling the rudder with the tiller that controls the outboard, then the prop doesn't hit the rudder. That is to say, both tillers are held parallel. Also, putting the rudder hard over to the port side (tiller hard over to starboard) is a no-no. However, in the space that I have to maneuver, that isn't required. Like Tom said, I have found that engine to be all that I have ever needed. Dan White M-17 #316B Bill Sylvester wrote: Tom, I am glad to get your reply. If you were to use the transom cutout for the Honda, would there be enough clearance for the rudder and tiller? I am hoping to be able to avoid using(buying and installing) an adjustable bracket unless I have to. Thanks, Bill Endelig M-17 #279 On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 10:18 AM, Smith, Tom wrote: I use a long shaft Honda 2 on an M17. I believe it's all the ob power that's required, and up to the job in conditions beyond calm water. You just learn the limitations of a smaller motor and abide by the rules. Our M17 is a '75 with the transom cutout, but the motor is mounted on an adjustable bracket and very easy to raise and lower. There doesn't seem to be any clearance problems motor to rudder. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sylvester [mailto:wmcsyl1@cox.net] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:36 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: New old M-17 Connie, If I understand correctly, you have a Honda BF2. How would it work on our M-17 as a calm water kicker? I am concerned about a bigger motor interfering with the action of the rudder. When we brought the boat from the slip to the trailer, we used a 50lb thrust Minn Kota that is presently with the boat. We never used more than half of the power and everything was OK. I know this question has been kicked around by this group for a long time. I feel that I can actually use the outboard cutout on the transom if the motor is small enough. What do you think, will the BF2 cut it? Have you heard of the new Honda BF 2.3? Bill Endelig M-17 #279
Speaking of which, can an outboard be retrofit with a folding prop? I know I'll receive several posts about how getting the shaft out of the water using an adjustable bracket is preferable, however, suppose you wanted to leave the shaft IN the water, but reduce drag (I have a good reason for wanting to do this, but don't care to explain). Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: New old M-17 Tom, I am glad to get your reply. If you were to use the transom cutout for the Honda, would there be enough clearance for the rudder and tiller? I am hoping to be able to avoid using(buying and installing) an adjustable bracket unless I have to. Thanks, Bill Endelig M-17 #279 On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 10:18 AM, Smith, Tom wrote: I use a long shaft Honda 2 on an M17. I believe it's all the ob power that's required, and up to the job in conditions beyond calm water. You just learn the limitations of a smaller motor and abide by the rules. Our M17 is a '75 with the transom cutout, but the motor is mounted on an adjustable bracket and very easy to raise and lower. There doesn't seem to be any clearance problems motor to rudder. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sylvester [mailto:wmcsyl1@cox.net] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:36 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: New old M-17 Connie, If I understand correctly, you have a Honda BF2. How would it work on our M-17 as a calm water kicker? I am concerned about a bigger motor interfering with the action of the rudder. When we brought the boat from the slip to the trailer, we used a 50lb thrust Minn Kota that is presently with the boat. We never used more than half of the power and everything was OK. I know this question has been kicked around by this group for a long time. I feel that I can actually use the outboard cutout on the transom if the motor is small enough. What do you think, will the BF2 cut it? Have you heard of the new Honda BF 2.3? Bill Endelig M-17 #279
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