I am selling my Gary Mull Ranger 26 and looking to downsize. Too much upkeep for this aging sailor. Being a long-time fan of Hess boats, the Montgomery 15 seems the perfect boat for me. I have spent the greater part of the month coveting them and have decided that one will definitely be in my future. The Montgomery 15 seems like an actual sailboat, not a toy with cloth flapping in the wind. I would like to be able to continue to ply the Puget Sound waters in relative safety. I consider myself an adequate sailor, having had boats from 22 to 38 feet over the last 15 years. Any other downsizing sailor's out there who now own a Montgomery? I would also be interested to hear from any recent purchasers. How long does it take to order and then receive a Montgomery 15? Did you special order anything? Ports, hardware, sails? Other advice? Thanks- Hugh
Ugo, I recently purchased a Montgomery 17 which I am in the process of giving her needed TLC and readying her for the sailing season and hope to trail it to the sound this summer. I therefore have no sailing experience with the Monty but having worked around and inside it for a few weeks I feel pretty confident that it will fulfill my expectations. Like you, I felt the need to downsize and felt the Monty 17 would fill the bill. I felt that the 15 was a little to small for my taste altho it sure gets rave reviews. My reasoning was also that I wanted to be able to spend a few nights aboard and the 15 seemed a little tight for that...but, my old body does not easily fit into tight spaces like it used to. My wife and 2 children lived aboard our Mariner 31 for several years and took her to Mexico back in the 1980's. We also lived on our 25ft Choey Lee Frisco Flyer for a year and last had a Dolphin 24. While the inside of the Monty is certainly less than my other boats it feels quite adaquate for my needs. As far as sea keeping ability, I have no doubts about the Monty considering her stout construction and design credentials...truth is, the Monty can probably take a lot more weather than this old body can endure. Kind regards Arnold On Apr 14, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Ugo BR wrote:
I am selling my Gary Mull Ranger 26 and looking to downsize. Too much upkeep for this aging sailor. Being a long-time fan of Hess boats, the Montgomery 15 seems the perfect boat for me. I have spent the greater part of the month coveting them and have decided that one will definitely be in my future. The Montgomery 15 seems like an actual sailboat, not a toy with cloth flapping in the wind. I would like to be able to continue to ply the Puget Sound waters in relative safety.
I consider myself an adequate sailor, having had boats from 22 to 38 feet over the last 15 years. Any other downsizing sailor's out there who now own a Montgomery?
I would also be interested to hear from any recent purchasers. How long does it take to order and then receive a Montgomery 15? Did you special order anything? Ports, hardware, sails? Other advice?
Thanks-
Hugh
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Hi Hugh: I can certainly relate to what you're going through. I guess I am a typical sailor in that I started out small in a Rhodes 19, then caught the cruising bug and bought a bilge keel Westerly 23 (poor performance), downsized again to a Flying Scot, tried a powerboat (Boston Whaler Montauk), back to sailing in a Precision 18, added a powerboat (Mako 17) and then threw all caution to the winds and bought a Nonsuch 30. I must say that I loved the Nonsuch and if I had unlimited time and funds would probably still own it. Increasing dock fees and insurance in South Florida killed it for me. When I started looking around for a trailer sailor again, I knew performance and stout construction was paramount. The Monty 17 that I now own fits the bill. I had originally considered a 15 but the 17 offers so much more room for the two feet that it was a no brainer. I keep my 17 at a marina, fully rigged and ready to sail. If I was keeping it at home and stepping the mast each time, I would get a 15. I bought my 17 used so cannot offer any thoughts regarding buying new. However, I have dealt with the builder, Bob Eeg on a few replacement items and he has been great. I was lucky to find my boat (a fiberglass centerboard model) used although I did have to travel almost 3000 miles roundtrip to get it. This is typical for many Montgomery owners. This board is a great resource and if you go through the archives there is a ton of information to help you. Two years ago I decided I couldn't resist the beautiful lines and spur of the moment sailing ease offered by a Melonseed so I now have two boats. You can never have enough boats! Maria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ugo BR" <crokesus@earthlink.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: M_Boats: Downsizing to a Montgomery 15
I am selling my Gary Mull Ranger 26 and looking to downsize. Too much upkeep for this aging sailor. Being a long-time fan of Hess boats, the Montgomery 15 seems the perfect boat for me. I have spent the greater part of the month coveting them and have decided that one will definitely be in my future. The Montgomery 15 seems like an actual sailboat, not a toy with cloth flapping in the wind. I would like to be able to continue to ply the Puget Sound waters in relative safety.
I consider myself an adequate sailor, having had boats from 22 to 38 feet over the last 15 years. Any other downsizing sailor's out there who now own a Montgomery?
I would also be interested to hear from any recent purchasers. How long does it take to order and then receive a Montgomery 15? Did you special order anything? Ports, hardware, sails? Other advice?
Thanks-
Hugh
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Maria, Thanks for your response. Indeed, your story is similar to my own with the exception of the power boat. Substitute instead a historic canoe stern sailboat with all stainless ports on a cabin trunk that was mahogany and lots of teak. A stunning boat but I never did anything but maintain her. The Ranger 26 is a great boat but moorage is terribly expensive and getting worse. Other than a 10 day cruise to the San Juan Islands, she is used only for day sails and overnighters. I live literally 1/2 mile from boat launches in a lovely neighborhood in Seattle. I thought a 15 might be easier to launch than a 17, although still sturdy enough to ply both the Puget Sound. Happy sailing. Ugo -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+crokesus=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+crokesus=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com ] On Behalf Of Maria Jorge Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:12 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Downsizing to a Montgomery 15 Hi Hugh: I can certainly relate to what you're going through. I guess I am a typical sailor in that I started out small in a Rhodes 19, then caught the cruising bug and bought a bilge keel Westerly 23 (poor performance), downsized again to a Flying Scot, tried a powerboat (Boston Whaler Montauk), back to sailing in a Precision 18, added a powerboat (Mako 17) and then threw all caution to the winds and bought a Nonsuch 30. I must say that I loved the Nonsuch and if I had unlimited time and funds would probably still own it. Increasing dock fees and insurance in South Florida killed it for me. When I started looking around for a trailer sailor again, I knew performance and stout construction was paramount. The Monty 17 that I now own fits the bill. I had originally considered a 15 but the 17 offers so much more room for the two feet that it was a no brainer. I keep my 17 at a marina, fully rigged and ready to sail. If I was keeping it at home and stepping the mast each time, I would get a 15. I bought my 17 used so cannot offer any thoughts regarding buying new. However, I have dealt with the builder, Bob Eeg on a few replacement items and he has been great. I was lucky to find my boat (a fiberglass centerboard model) used although I did have to travel almost 3000 miles roundtrip to get it. This is typical for many Montgomery owners. This board is a great resource and if you go through the archives there is a ton of information to help you. Two years ago I decided I couldn't resist the beautiful lines and spur of the moment sailing ease offered by a Melonseed so I now have two boats. You can never have enough boats! Maria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ugo BR" <crokesus@earthlink.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: M_Boats: Downsizing to a Montgomery 15
I am selling my Gary Mull Ranger 26 and looking to downsize. Too much upkeep for this aging sailor. Being a long-time fan of Hess boats, the Montgomery 15 seems the perfect boat for me. I have spent the greater part of the month coveting them and have decided that one will definitely be in my future. The Montgomery 15 seems like an actual sailboat, not a toy with cloth flapping in the wind. I would like to be able to continue to ply the Puget Sound waters in relative safety.
I consider myself an adequate sailor, having had boats from 22 to 38 feet over the last 15 years. Any other downsizing sailor's out there who now own a Montgomery?
I would also be interested to hear from any recent purchasers. How long does it take to order and then receive a Montgomery 15? Did you special order anything? Ports, hardware, sails? Other advice?
Thanks-
Hugh
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i've sailed mintos to 36' craft in the sound. my opinion of the M15 and puget sound = good fit ... if you sail within the limits of the boat. in the summer, as you know, the sound is in many way just a large lake ... without much wind. as the M15 doesn't take a lot of wind to get moving the craft makes for a good fit (just keep an eye out for some of those tide rips). in a blow if you set the correct sail the monty will do fine (this is the weak point w/my current rig, i need a 'storm' jib and a 2-reef main). overall you must remember that the M15 isn't a keel boat. because of hull shape is tender to start. she is much more than a dingy sailer. for cruising if you have a strong backpacking history the M15 is an easy fit. you have essentially a fiberglass tent ... a really nice one with lots of storage space and a good sized bed. i'm in the seattle area (kent) and could show my boat. i'll be taking her out of winter storage in a week to begin the sailing season. if you would like to take a look at a boat let me know. david scobie M15 #288 (not yet named) Ugo BR <crokesus@earthlink.net> wrote: I am selling my Gary Mull Ranger 26 and looking to downsize. Too much upkeep for this aging sailor. Being a long-time fan of Hess boats, the Montgomery 15 seems the perfect boat for me. I have spent the greater part of the month coveting them and have decided that one will definitely be in my future. The Montgomery 15 seems like an actual sailboat, not a toy with cloth flapping in the wind. I would like to be able to continue to ply the Puget Sound waters in relative safety. I consider myself an adequate sailor, having had boats from 22 to 38 feet over the last 15 years. Any other downsizing sailor's out there who now own a Montgomery? I would also be interested to hear from any recent purchasers. How long does it take to order and then receive a Montgomery 15? Did you special order anything? Ports, hardware, sails? Other advice? Thanks- Hugh _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Another Seattle area sailor? And an M15 owner? Let me know when you might be taking her out of storage. Re the Puget Sound in the summer. Nice afternoon breezes at times but you are right. At times like a big lake. And the tides in Rich's Passage and around Bainbridge can be tricky. I have been keeping my present boat at Harbor Island Marina, forcing me to negotiate Elliot Bay with its ships and ferry traffic. Anxious to obtain a M15 to take advantage of my location on the cut less than a mile from Lake Union and close to the locks. Thanks for your input! -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+crokesus=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+crokesus=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com ] On Behalf Of W David Scobie Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:52 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Downsizing to a Montgomery 15 i've sailed mintos to 36' craft in the sound. my opinion of the M15 and puget sound = good fit ... if you sail within the limits of the boat. in the summer, as you know, the sound is in many way just a large lake ... without much wind. as the M15 doesn't take a lot of wind to get moving the craft makes for a good fit (just keep an eye out for some of those tide rips). in a blow if you set the correct sail the monty will do fine (this is the weak point w/my current rig, i need a 'storm' jib and a 2-reef main). overall you must remember that the M15 isn't a keel boat. because of hull shape is tender to start. she is much more than a dingy sailer. for cruising if you have a strong backpacking history the M15 is an easy fit. you have essentially a fiberglass tent ... a really nice one with lots of storage space and a good sized bed. i'm in the seattle area (kent) and could show my boat. i'll be taking her out of winter storage in a week to begin the sailing season. if you would like to take a look at a boat let me know. david scobie M15 #288 (not yet named) Ugo BR <crokesus@earthlink.net> wrote: I am selling my Gary Mull Ranger 26 and looking to downsize. Too much upkeep for this aging sailor. Being a long-time fan of Hess boats, the Montgomery 15 seems the perfect boat for me. I have spent the greater part of the month coveting them and have decided that one will definitely be in my future. The Montgomery 15 seems like an actual sailboat, not a toy with cloth flapping in the wind. I would like to be able to continue to ply the Puget Sound waters in relative safety. I consider myself an adequate sailor, having had boats from 22 to 38 feet over the last 15 years. Any other downsizing sailor's out there who now own a Montgomery? I would also be interested to hear from any recent purchasers. How long does it take to order and then receive a Montgomery 15? Did you special order anything? Ports, hardware, sails? Other advice? Thanks- Hugh _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
hugh: my M15 is now parking in the front yard for the season's commissioning. if you are interesting in taking a look let me know. (fyi - i'm leaving for a boat trip with the NWpotters this friday, 4/27; will return 4/29.) dave scobie M15 #288, not yet named Ugo BR <crokesus@earthlink.net> wrote: Another Seattle area sailor? And an M15 owner? Let me know when you might be taking her out of storage. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Would be great to see your boat out of the water. Having a bit of a hard time tonight. Shed some tears on the dock as I said good-bye to my Ranger 26. Had to sell her as moorage in Seattle is too out of hand and I just couldn't keep up with the maintenance and the new house. But such wonderful times. Looking forward to ordering an M15 this coming year. Can't live without a sailboat. A perfect final boat. As I said to my daughter, "Just do the Viking things when I die." Given that I am 51 I should still have a few good years out on the Sound. Ciao, Hugh -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+crokesus=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+crokesus=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com ] On Behalf Of W David Scobie Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:15 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: looking at a Montgomery 15 hugh: my M15 is now parking in the front yard for the season's commissioning. if you are interesting in taking a look let me know. (fyi - i'm leaving for a boat trip with the NWpotters this friday, 4/27; will return 4/29.) dave scobie M15 #288, not yet named Ugo BR <crokesus@earthlink.net> wrote: Another Seattle area sailor? And an M15 owner? Let me know when you might be taking her out of storage. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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