Why even bother with oars on a Monty 15
Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat. Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion... 1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but.... 2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure. 3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!" 4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment. Cheers, - Brad
I enjoyed Brad's brief treatise on motorboating and aerobic exercise as it pertains to the M-15. Many years ago, I used to have a Drascombe Dabber and used the oars (two sets of locks!) but succumbed to the iron jib to get in and out of a crowded harbor. In spite of several posts which attest to the application of oars, I'm not sure how an M-15 would look with oarlocks attached to the outside of the coaming, how practical it would be to row (stand-up seems to make some sense) and what do you do with a pair of long oars (maybe remedied with two piece oars). I'm going to try my sculling technique this summer. I sail on an inland lake (Pymatuning) so there are no tides or currents. Waves can get to 3 ft in strong winds, but otherwise, pretty tame. I bought a Minn Kota electric trolling motor as a kicker. Many of the other sailors at my small club have done likewise. Anybody else out there has tried a trolling motor on an M-15? Thanks Fair Winds and Following Seas! Rimas "Ray" Aukstuoplis On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:28 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat.
Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion...
1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but....
2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure.
3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!"
4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment.
Cheers,
- Brad
Interesting. When I was a dock rat kid there was an old MD who would row his Aquarius 23 everyday ( when calm). Rarely sailed. Built custom oars with aluminum shafts. I as came to know him I asked him why he rowed the boat. He just said “I like to.” Why didn’t he build a rowboat? “I own this one, paid for.” Does a Yuloh work? Yes. Can you put oars on a Monty? Yes. Can you use a standup paddle? Yes. Can you row front facing standing up? Certainly. Mount a sliding seat a row with 10’ sculls? Yes. Two rowers with sweeps? Yes. Of course in a Monty: where am I going to put that stuff? Can you adapt a trolling motor? You betcha. If you carry batteries and stay in a healthy discharge/ charge profile. ( though here on west coast you MUST register boat with ANY motor. Here in Oregon one can avoid registration if under 16 ft, with no motor. And no trailer reg/fees) Thanks for the thread. Ed Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:12 AM, Rimantas Aukstuolis <raukstuolis1@gmail.com> wrote:
I enjoyed Brad's brief treatise on motorboating and aerobic exercise as it pertains to the M-15. Many years ago, I used to have a Drascombe Dabber and used the oars (two sets of locks!) but succumbed to the iron jib to get in and out of a crowded harbor. In spite of several posts which attest to the application of oars, I'm not sure how an M-15 would look with oarlocks attached to the outside of the coaming, how practical it would be to row (stand-up seems to make some sense) and what do you do with a pair of long oars (maybe remedied with two piece oars). I'm going to try my sculling technique this summer. I sail on an inland lake (Pymatuning) so there are no tides or currents. Waves can get to 3 ft in strong winds, but otherwise, pretty tame. I bought a Minn Kota electric trolling motor as a kicker. Many of the other sailors at my small club have done likewise. Anybody else out there has tried a trolling motor on an M-15? Thanks Fair Winds and Following Seas! Rimas "Ray" Aukstuoplis
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:28 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat.
Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion...
1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but....
2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure.
3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!"
4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment.
Cheers,
- Brad
I second Brad: I have diabetes 1 and a bit of a row starts off the morning well. Ed Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> wrote:
Interesting. When I was a dock rat kid there was an old MD who would row his Aquarius 23 everyday ( when calm). Rarely sailed. Built custom oars with aluminum shafts. I as came to know him I asked him why he rowed the boat. He just said “I like to.” Why didn’t he build a rowboat? “I own this one, paid for.” Does a Yuloh work? Yes. Can you put oars on a Monty? Yes. Can you use a standup paddle? Yes. Can you row front facing standing up? Certainly. Mount a sliding seat a row with 10’ sculls? Yes. Two rowers with sweeps? Yes. Of course in a Monty: where am I going to put that stuff? Can you adapt a trolling motor? You betcha. If you carry batteries and stay in a healthy discharge/ charge profile. ( though here on west coast you MUST register boat with ANY motor. Here in Oregon one can avoid registration if under 16 ft, with no motor. And no trailer reg/fees) Thanks for the thread. Ed
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:12 AM, Rimantas Aukstuolis <raukstuolis1@gmail.com> wrote:
I enjoyed Brad's brief treatise on motorboating and aerobic exercise as it pertains to the M-15. Many years ago, I used to have a Drascombe Dabber and used the oars (two sets of locks!) but succumbed to the iron jib to get in and out of a crowded harbor. In spite of several posts which attest to the application of oars, I'm not sure how an M-15 would look with oarlocks attached to the outside of the coaming, how practical it would be to row (stand-up seems to make some sense) and what do you do with a pair of long oars (maybe remedied with two piece oars). I'm going to try my sculling technique this summer. I sail on an inland lake (Pymatuning) so there are no tides or currents. Waves can get to 3 ft in strong winds, but otherwise, pretty tame. I bought a Minn Kota electric trolling motor as a kicker. Many of the other sailors at my small club have done likewise. Anybody else out there has tried a trolling motor on an M-15? Thanks Fair Winds and Following Seas! Rimas "Ray" Aukstuoplis
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:28 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat.
Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion...
1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but....
2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure.
3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!"
4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment.
Cheers,
- Brad
Even a Monty 17 can benefit from the use of a Yuloh. I was able to propel 40' sailboats using a pram and a yuloh. On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:54 AM Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> wrote:
I second Brad: I have diabetes 1 and a bit of a row starts off the morning well. Ed
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> wrote:
Interesting. When I was a dock rat kid there was an old MD who would row his Aquarius 23 everyday ( when calm). Rarely sailed. Built custom oars with aluminum shafts. I as came to know him I asked him why he rowed the boat. He just said “I like to.” Why didn’t he build a rowboat? “I own this one, paid for.” Does a Yuloh work? Yes. Can you put oars on a Monty? Yes. Can you use a standup paddle? Yes. Can you row front facing standing up? Certainly. Mount a sliding seat a row with 10’ sculls? Yes. Two rowers with sweeps? Yes. Of course in a Monty: where am I going to put that stuff? Can you adapt a trolling motor? You betcha. If you carry batteries and stay in a healthy discharge/ charge profile. ( though here on west coast you MUST register boat with ANY motor. Here in Oregon one can avoid registration if under 16 ft, with no motor. And no trailer reg/fees) Thanks for the thread. Ed
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 3, 2021, at 8:12 AM, Rimantas Aukstuolis <raukstuolis1@gmail.com> wrote:
I enjoyed Brad's brief treatise on motorboating and aerobic exercise as it pertains to the M-15. Many years ago, I used to have a Drascombe Dabber and used the oars (two sets of locks!) but succumbed to the iron jib to get in and out of a crowded harbor. In spite of several posts which attest to the application of oars, I'm not sure how an M-15 would look with oarlocks attached to the outside of the coaming, how practical it would be to row (stand-up seems to make some sense) and what do you do with a pair of long oars (maybe remedied with two piece oars). I'm going to try my sculling technique this summer. I sail on an inland lake (Pymatuning) so there are no tides or currents. Waves can get to 3 ft in strong winds, but otherwise, pretty tame. I bought a Minn Kota electric trolling motor as a kicker. Many of the other sailors at my small club have done likewise. Anybody else out there has tried a trolling motor on an M-15? Thanks Fair Winds and Following Seas! Rimas "Ray" Aukstuoplis
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 10:28 AM brad kurlancheek < bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat.
Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion...
1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but....
2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure.
3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!"
4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment.
Cheers,
- Brad
And if your outboard fails, all of a sudden, you will love those oars. I've always had a dinghy (with outboard) to get to shore. Never in my life have I left without oars. It's good seamanship in my opinion. Also, I'm sure proper oars can push your Monty pretty efficiently. It's much better than no propulsion. Layered safety options never hurts. On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:28 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat.
Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion...
1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but....
2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure.
3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!"
4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment.
Cheers,
- Brad
I would love to have oars on my M15 but never bothered to rig them up. I have a long handled wooden canoe paddle, and can make about 2 knots all day long sitting up on a stack of foam flotation cushions with one foot in the cockpit locker, and adjusting the tiller clutch slightly every few minutes. Sincerely, Tyler '81 M15 #157 S/V Defiant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Baker" <avalonjazz@gmail.com> To: "bkurlancheek" <bkurlancheek@gmail.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:51:28 AM Subject: M_Boats: Re: Why even bother with oars on a Monty 15 And if your outboard fails, all of a sudden, you will love those oars. I've always had a dinghy (with outboard) to get to shore. Never in my life have I left without oars. It's good seamanship in my opinion. Also, I'm sure proper oars can push your Monty pretty efficiently. It's much better than no propulsion. Layered safety options never hurts. On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:28 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat.
Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion...
1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but....
2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure.
3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!"
4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment.
Cheers,
- Brad
Tyler,sup paddles are great too. Keeps my back straighter. Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:00 PM, "casioqv@usermail.com" <casioqv@usermail.com> wrote:
I would love to have oars on my M15 but never bothered to rig them up. I have a long handled wooden canoe paddle, and can make about 2 knots all day long sitting up on a stack of foam flotation cushions with one foot in the cockpit locker, and adjusting the tiller clutch slightly every few minutes.
Sincerely, Tyler '81 M15 #157 S/V Defiant
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Baker" <avalonjazz@gmail.com> To: "bkurlancheek" <bkurlancheek@gmail.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:51:28 AM Subject: M_Boats: Re: Why even bother with oars on a Monty 15
And if your outboard fails, all of a sudden, you will love those oars. I've always had a dinghy (with outboard) to get to shore. Never in my life have I left without oars. It's good seamanship in my opinion. Also, I'm sure proper oars can push your Monty pretty efficiently. It's much better than no propulsion. Layered safety options never hurts.
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:28 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat.
Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion...
1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but....
2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure.
3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!"
4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment.
Cheers,
- Brad
Agree. Well put. Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 4, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Paul Baker <avalonjazz@gmail.com> wrote:
And if your outboard fails, all of a sudden, you will love those oars. I've always had a dinghy (with outboard) to get to shore. Never in my life have I left without oars. It's good seamanship in my opinion. Also, I'm sure proper oars can push your Monty pretty efficiently. It's much better than no propulsion. Layered safety options never hurts.
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:28 AM brad kurlancheek <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat.
Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion...
1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but....
2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure.
3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!"
4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment.
Cheers,
- Brad
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brad kurlancheek -
casioqv＠usermail.com -
Edward Epifani -
Paul Baker -
Rimantas Aukstuolis -
Thomas Buzzi