I've been planning to mount genoa tracks on my '83 M-17, and since someone recently posted on this topic recently I thought I'd ask the question I've been wondering about: My teak toerails are bolted through the deck-hull joint at at random intervals, anywhere from about five inches through eight inches apart. There's no even spacing. Considering that the Schaeffer T-track is bolted through at four-inch spacing, should I even try to line up some of the holes? Complicating this is that you have to drill and bolt the first two holes and then bend the track as you go -- so you really can't know how anything is going to line up until you get there. I'd hate to start and then have to drill new holes too close to the old ones. Has anyone performed a retrofit like this before? If so, any suggestions on how to proceed? Thanks much, Gordon M-17 #377 "Sapphire" Milwaukee
Gordon- Miss as many of the old bolts as you can, and the ones you can't, pull them out. The easy way is to drill and bolt one of the ends, then do the same in approx the center, then the other end, making sure that none of these hit the old bolts, Then mark the rest of the holes with a pencil, remover the rail, then you can see which of the old ones conflict. Jerry jerrymontgomery.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Gilbert" <gordon@financialwriting.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: M_Boats: Mounting T-track on toerail
I've been planning to mount genoa tracks on my '83 M-17, and since someone recently posted on this topic recently I thought I'd ask the question I've been wondering about: My teak toerails are bolted through the deck-hull joint at at random intervals, anywhere from about five inches through eight inches apart. There's no even spacing. Considering that the Schaeffer T-track is bolted through at four-inch spacing, should I even try to line up some of the holes? Complicating this is that you have to drill and bolt the first two holes and then bend the track as you go -- so you really can't know how anything is going to line up until you get there. I'd hate to start and then have to drill new holes too close to the old ones.
Has anyone performed a retrofit like this before? If so, any suggestions on how to proceed?
Thanks much,
Gordon M-17 #377 "Sapphire" Milwaukee
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That makes sense. Thanks for the advice, Jerry! Gordon On Jul 2, 2008, at 1:22 PM, jerry wrote:
Gordon- Miss as many of the old bolts as you can, and the ones you can't, pull them out. The easy way is to drill and bolt one of the ends, then do the same in approx the center, then the other end, making sure that none of these hit the old bolts, Then mark the rest of the holes with a pencil, remover the rail, then you can see which of the old ones conflict.
Jerry jerrymontgomery.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Gilbert" <gordon@financialwriting.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: M_Boats: Mounting T-track on toerail
I've been planning to mount genoa tracks on my '83 M-17, and since someone recently posted on this topic recently I thought I'd ask the question I've been wondering about: My teak toerails are bolted through the deck-hull joint at at random intervals, anywhere from about five inches through eight inches apart. There's no even spacing. Considering that the Schaeffer T-track is bolted through at four-inch spacing, should I even try to line up some of the holes? Complicating this is that you have to drill and bolt the first two holes and then bend the track as you go -- so you really can't know how anything is going to line up until you get there. I'd hate to start and then have to drill new holes too close to the old ones.
Has anyone performed a retrofit like this before? If so, any suggestions on how to proceed?
Thanks much,
Gordon M-17 #377 "Sapphire" Milwaukee
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Speaking of tracks on toe rails (sorry if this has been discussed), but I was impressed to see how Rick (M23 Raven) mounted track on the alum. toe rail of his boat (see it on Bill's photo site). Very nice job. A worthy and useful upgrade for any Mboat with a metal toe rail... t
Gordon I just finished the Genoa rigging process on my M-15. I received a lot of help and suggestions from all of the wonderful skippers on this list. I think long and hard about every hole I drill in the Pelican. I also am a "fitting snob" and want all the fittings to be scaled properly and make sense. After considering many Genoa track installations costing more that the sail itself here is what I did. 1. Without any track or block installed I flew the Geny in light air and just held the sheet with my hand. 2. By holding the sheet I determined the best location for a fairlead. 3. I mounted a fairlead and cam cleat on each side. It works very well. I don't have any adjustment but most of the skippers I talked to had positioned the car and never moved it The best part is that it didn't cost much and it looks to be the right scale for the little boat and small forces. If any of you skippers are interested I can post some pics Capt'n James A. Sadler skipper sailing yacht Pelican M-15 (205) On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Gordon Gilbert <gordon@financialwriting.net> wrote:
I've been planning to mount genoa tracks on my '83 M-17, and since someone recently posted on this topic recently I thought I'd ask the question I've been wondering about: My teak toerails are bolted through the deck-hull joint at at random intervals, anywhere from about five inches through eight inches apart. There's no even spacing. Considering that the Schaeffer T-track is bolted through at four-inch spacing, should I even try to line up some of the holes? Complicating this is that you have to drill and bolt the first two holes and then bend the track as you go -- so you really can't know how anything is going to line up until you get there. I'd hate to start and then have to drill new holes too close to the old ones.
Has anyone performed a retrofit like this before? If so, any suggestions on how to proceed?
Thanks much,
Gordon M-17 #377 "Sapphire" Milwaukee
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