Attached is a photo of SWEET PEA's. I've also used it on my M15 (actually made for my old M15 SCRED), and the Sage 17 and Sage 15 & SageCat (though short for the SageCat with her ling boom). More details needed let me know. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 12:44 PM <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
I had the sailmaker make up a 7X7 tarp of acrylan with a grommet in each corner, then used two whisker poles to go in front and back, and a line off each corner. it can be set up with the poles either over or under the boom, and can easily be canted either way to dodge the sun by adjusting the corner lines, which go down to the rails. I learned this from some of my cruising buddies in Tucson, who sail in Mexico. Even more proof that I know how to listen, despite what some say. A 6X6 tarp works well on the 15. When sailing I roll everything up together and lash it to the toe rail.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:06 PM
I've done all my cruising in warm weather, mostly in Mexico, where I do everything in the cockpit under a boom awning, and the area below is necessary only for stowage, and this influences my thinking.
Makes sense...I hope to do some of that kind of warm weather cruising but sometimes I'll also be in the northwest, where it's nice to be able to hunker down in 'adequate comfort' below for a little while.
Care to share your design for M17 boom awning?
cheers, John
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
I'd like to see more pictures of boom tents and attachment details. It's on my list of upgrades. Anyone ever do silnylon? Seems like a good idea as it's super light, doesn't absorb water, dries almost instantly.. From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 4:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent Attached is a photo of SWEET PEA's. I've also used it on my M15 (actually made for my old M15 SCRED), and the Sage 17 and Sage 15 & SageCat (though short for the SageCat with her ling boom). More details needed let me know. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 12:44 PM <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
I had the sailmaker make up a 7X7 tarp of acrylan with a grommet in each corner, then used two whisker poles to go in front and back, and a line off each corner. it can be set up with the poles either over or under the boom, and can easily be canted either way to dodge the sun by adjusting the corner lines, which go down to the rails. I learned this from some of my cruising buddies in Tucson, who sail in Mexico. Even more proof that I know how to listen, despite what some say. A 6X6 tarp works well on the 15. When sailing I roll everything up together and lash it to the toe rail.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:06 PM
I've done all my cruising in warm weather, mostly in Mexico, where I do everything in the cockpit under a boom awning, and the area below is necessary only for stowage, and this influences my thinking.
Makes sense...I hope to do some of that kind of warm weather cruising but sometimes I'll also be in the northwest, where it's nice to be able to hunker down in 'adequate comfort' below for a little while.
Care to share your design for M17 boom awning?
cheers, John
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Another is on the MSOG site Lawerance - http://msog.org/how-to/cottrell/cottrell_tent.cfm There is also one on the MSOGphotosite - http://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/StoryTechnical/storytechnicaldetail.php?id=... :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:06 PM Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I'd like to see more pictures of boom tents and attachment details. It's on my list of upgrades. Anyone ever do silnylon? Seems like a good idea as it's super light, doesn't absorb water, dries almost instantly..
From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 4:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent
Attached is a photo of SWEET PEA's. I've also used it on my M15 (actually made for my old M15 SCRED), and the Sage 17 and Sage 15 & SageCat (though short for the SageCat with her ling boom).
More details needed let me know.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 12:44 PM <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
I had the sailmaker make up a 7X7 tarp of acrylan with a grommet in each corner, then used two whisker poles to go in front and back, and a line off each corner. it can be set up with the poles either over or under the boom, and can easily be canted either way to dodge the sun by adjusting the corner lines, which go down to the rails. I learned this from some of my cruising buddies in Tucson, who sail in Mexico. Even more proof that I know how to listen, despite what some say. A 6X6 tarp works well on the 15. When sailing I roll everything up together and lash it to the toe rail.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:06 PM
I've done all my cruising in warm weather, mostly in Mexico, where I do everything in the cockpit under a boom awning, and the area below is necessary only for stowage, and this influences my thinking.
Makes sense...I hope to do some of that kind of warm weather cruising but sometimes I'll also be in the northwest, where it's nice to be able to hunker down in 'adequate comfort' below for a little while.
Care to share your design for M17 boom awning?
cheers, John
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Thanks Dave. Do you have some more pictures of yours from the front and back that you could share? I'd like to see a picture of Jerry's tent too if he has one to share. From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski@yahoo.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 7:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent Another is on the MSOG site Lawerance - http://msog.org/how-to/cottrell/cottrell_tent.cfm There is also one on the MSOGphotosite - http://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/StoryTechnical/storytechnicaldetail.php?id=... :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:06 PM Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: I'd like to see more pictures of boom tents and attachment details. It's on my list of upgrades. Anyone ever do silnylon? Seems like a good idea as it's super light, doesn't absorb water, dries almost instantly.. From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 4:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent Attached is a photo of SWEET PEA's. I've also used it on my M15 (actually made for my old M15 SCRED), and the Sage 17 and Sage 15 & SageCat (though short for the SageCat with her ling boom). More details needed let me know. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 12:44 PM <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
I had the sailmaker make up a 7X7 tarp of acrylan with a grommet in each corner, then used two whisker poles to go in front and back, and a line off each corner. it can be set up with the poles either over or under the boom, and can easily be canted either way to dodge the sun by adjusting the corner lines, which go down to the rails. I learned this from some of my cruising buddies in Tucson, who sail in Mexico. Even more proof that I know how to listen, despite what some say. A 6X6 tarp works well on the 15. When sailing I roll everything up together and lash it to the toe rail.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:06 PM
I've done all my cruising in warm weather, mostly in Mexico, where I do everything in the cockpit under a boom awning, and the area below is necessary only for stowage, and this influences my thinking.
Makes sense...I hope to do some of that kind of warm weather cruising but sometimes I'll also be in the northwest, where it's nice to be able to hunker down in 'adequate comfort' below for a little while.
Care to share your design for M17 boom awning?
cheers, John
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
I just made one for my M15 for $20. I got a heavy duty 12mil white tarp on Amazon, some 100lb test zip ties, and two think strips of moulding wood from the hardware store. I drilled holes in the wood to add zip ties where the tarp has grommets. On the M15 the bow end of the shade can attach directly to the aft shrouds using a ball bungee on each side. For the stern, I used some nylon parachute coord. Overall it's pretty good, but I got a 6x8 tarp, and made it 8' long, which is too long. I think I'll just rotate it so it's 6' long and 8' wide, with 6' spars plus a 1' vertical section of shade tarp on each side. A 6x6 tarp would have been better. Sincerely, Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> To: "scoobscobie" <scoobscobie@gmail.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:13:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent Thanks Dave. Do you have some more pictures of yours from the front and back that you could share? I'd like to see a picture of Jerry's tent too if he has one to share. From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski@yahoo.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 7:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent Another is on the MSOG site Lawerance - http://msog.org/how-to/cottrell/cottrell_tent.cfm There is also one on the MSOGphotosite - http://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/StoryTechnical/storytechnicaldetail.php?id=... :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:06 PM Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: I'd like to see more pictures of boom tents and attachment details. It's on my list of upgrades. Anyone ever do silnylon? Seems like a good idea as it's super light, doesn't absorb water, dries almost instantly.. From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 4:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent Attached is a photo of SWEET PEA's. I've also used it on my M15 (actually made for my old M15 SCRED), and the Sage 17 and Sage 15 & SageCat (though short for the SageCat with her ling boom). More details needed let me know. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 12:44 PM <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
I had the sailmaker make up a 7X7 tarp of acrylan with a grommet in each corner, then used two whisker poles to go in front and back, and a line off each corner. it can be set up with the poles either over or under the boom, and can easily be canted either way to dodge the sun by adjusting the corner lines, which go down to the rails. I learned this from some of my cruising buddies in Tucson, who sail in Mexico. Even more proof that I know how to listen, despite what some say. A 6X6 tarp works well on the 15. When sailing I roll everything up together and lash it to the toe rail.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:06 PM
I've done all my cruising in warm weather, mostly in Mexico, where I do everything in the cockpit under a boom awning, and the area below is necessary only for stowage, and this influences my thinking.
Makes sense...I hope to do some of that kind of warm weather cruising but sometimes I'll also be in the northwest, where it's nice to be able to hunker down in 'adequate comfort' below for a little while.
Care to share your design for M17 boom awning?
cheers, John
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
This is a cockpit enclosure I made a few years ago. Basically there is space for one person on each side, but out of the rain and with a screen, it was pretty cozy. Easy to take down and store down below. Randy Sommerfeld No Worries Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: casioqv@usermail.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 10:40 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent I just made one for my M15 for $20. I got a heavy duty 12mil white tarp on Amazon, some 100lb test zip ties, and two think strips of moulding wood from the hardware store. I drilled holes in the wood to add zip ties where the tarp has grommets. On the M15 the bow end of the shade can attach directly to the aft shrouds using a ball bungee on each side. For the stern, I used some nylon parachute coord. Overall it's pretty good, but I got a 6x8 tarp, and made it 8' long, which is too long. I think I'll just rotate it so it's 6' long and 8' wide, with 6' spars plus a 1' vertical section of shade tarp on each side. A 6x6 tarp would have been better. Sincerely, Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> To: "scoobscobie" <scoobscobie@gmail.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 8:13:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent Thanks Dave. Do you have some more pictures of yours from the front and back that you could share? I'd like to see a picture of Jerry's tent too if he has one to share. From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski@yahoo.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 7:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent Another is on the MSOG site Lawerance - http://msog.org/how-to/cottrell/cottrell_tent.cfm There is also one on the MSOGphotosite - http://msogphotosite.com/Scripts/StoryTechnical/storytechnicaldetail.php?id=... :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:06 PM Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: I'd like to see more pictures of boom tents and attachment details. It's on my list of upgrades. Anyone ever do silnylon? Seems like a good idea as it's super light, doesn't absorb water, dries almost instantly.. From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 4:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cockpit boom tent Attached is a photo of SWEET PEA's. I've also used it on my M15 (actually made for my old M15 SCRED), and the Sage 17 and Sage 15 & SageCat (though short for the SageCat with her ling boom). More details needed let me know. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 12:44 PM <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
I had the sailmaker make up a 7X7 tarp of acrylan with a grommet in each corner, then used two whisker poles to go in front and back, and a line off each corner. it can be set up with the poles either over or under the boom, and can easily be canted either way to dodge the sun by adjusting the corner lines, which go down to the rails. I learned this from some of my cruising buddies in Tucson, who sail in Mexico. Even more proof that I know how to listen, despite what some say. A 6X6 tarp works well on the 15. When sailing I roll everything up together and lash it to the toe rail.
-----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 12:06 PM
I've done all my cruising in warm weather, mostly in Mexico, where I do everything in the cockpit under a boom awning, and the area below is necessary only for stowage, and this influences my thinking.
Makes sense...I hope to do some of that kind of warm weather cruising but sometimes I'll also be in the northwest, where it's nice to be able to hunker down in 'adequate comfort' below for a little while.
Care to share your design for M17 boom awning?
cheers, John
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
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