I am interested, but do not yet have a Montgomery. I have a wonderful picture as my computer wallpaper of two Montgomery 15 boats pulled up about a foot from a sandy shore. This capability really appeals to me, but I may want the larger M-17. I have read several cruising stories where both boats were present. Does the greater draft of the M-17 make much practical difference in being able to pull up close to shore? Thanks, Jerry Renno ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com
Jerry, I may know the picture you are referring to, that could be two M15's on Priest Lake, Idaho. Does one of the 15's have a blue stripe and the other have a green? In my thinking, it is not so much the difference in draft between the 15 and 17, but rather the difference in weight. At 750 lbs the 15 weighs less than 1/2 the 17. The 15 is much easier to and push-off when beached. In sand or mud we wouldn't hesitate to beach our 15. Once beached waves and the wakes would often push the 15 up onto the beach a bit further. The 15 is light enough that you could wiggle it off. We don't beach our 17. I think it would be a handful to try push off if driven much up the beach. Randy G. M17 #410 ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces+randyg=cite.nic.edu@mailman.xmission.com on behalf of Jerry Sent: Mon 11/6/2006 2:11 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Close to the bank I am interested, but do not yet have a Montgomery. I have a wonderful picture as my computer wallpaper of two Montgomery 15 boats pulled up about a foot from a sandy shore. This capability really appeals to me, but I may want the larger M-17. I have read several cruising stories where both boats were present. Does the greater draft of the M-17 make much practical difference in being able to pull up close to shore? Thanks, Jerry Renno ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com <http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com/> _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
The draft at the keel/centerboard is, in my estimation, not the main controlling difference. For myself, the issue is more the kick-up rudder on a 15 vs the vertically sliding rudder on a 17. For shallower water sailing, a kick-up rudder could be retrofitted to a 17 (IdaSailor offers one). Something I need to do this winter is make a new rudder for my 17 (I shattered my nice wooden one on a submerged immoveable object last summer). I plan to make a kick-up one. Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces+randyg=cite.nic.edu@mailman.xmission.com on behalf of Jerry Sent: Mon 11/6/2006 2:11 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Close to the bank I am interested, but do not yet have a Montgomery. I have a wonderful picture as my computer wallpaper of two Montgomery 15 boats pulled up about a foot from a sandy shore. This capability really appeals to me, but I may want the larger M-17. I have read several cruising stories where both boats were present. Does the greater draft of the M-17 make much practical difference in being able to pull up close to shore? Thanks, Jerry Renno ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com <http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com/> _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
I just bought a new rudder and tiller for my M17 (the original was 25 years old and not restorable IMHO)... i purchased it from Jerry's original supplier (Royce Boat Shop) and had them shipped to northern CA from southern CA... total cost$425. I haven't installed it yet... a winter project... it is beautiful though. I know it is not convenient to shallow gunkholing but i think the beauty of that big hunk of mahogony is part of the charm of the M17. And Mr. Monty got me concerned about performance in heavier seas with a kick up... (my definition of heavier seas... SF Bay). Jeff (#336) htmills@bright.net wrote: The draft at the keel/centerboard is, in my estimation, not the main controlling difference. For myself, the issue is more the kick-up rudder on a 15 vs the vertically sliding rudder on a 17. For shallower water sailing, a kick-up rudder could be retrofitted to a 17 (IdaSailor offers one). Something I need to do this winter is make a new rudder for my 17 (I shattered my nice wooden one on a submerged immoveable object last summer). I plan to make a kick-up one. Tod Mills M17 #408 BuscaBrisas ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces+randyg=cite.nic.edu@mailman.xmission.com on behalf of Jerry Sent: Mon 11/6/2006 2:11 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Close to the bank I am interested, but do not yet have a Montgomery. I have a wonderful picture as my computer wallpaper of two Montgomery 15 boats pulled up about a foot from a sandy shore. This capability really appeals to me, but I may want the larger M-17. I have read several cruising stories where both boats were present. Does the greater draft of the M-17 make much practical difference in being able to pull up close to shore? Thanks, Jerry Renno ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Jerry, I "beach" my M15 with a steep slope to the beach. Every CB boat I have ever had will eventually jamb a shell up inside and the CB won't drop. I use a stern anchor to keep it from creeping on to the beach. You will find it difficult to board over the bow as it is quite high off the water. The last couple of times I have put the stern on the beach and used the swim ladder to get back up. If you end up with an M17 a non-standard kick up rudder is mandatory to think of beaching. Thanks Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" M15 --- Jerry <wd4mph@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am interested, but do not yet have a Montgomery. I have a wonderful picture as my computer wallpaper of two Montgomery 15 boats pulled up about a foot from a sandy shore. This capability really appeals to me, but I may want the larger M-17. I have read several cruising stories where both boats were present. Does the greater draft of the M-17 make much practical difference in being able to pull up close to shore?
Thanks, Jerry Renno
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