New to me M17 had delamination under the starboard cockpit seat due to some pretty big voids in the resin the core was supposed to be bedded in. Appears to be 1” foam core covered with 1 layer of 6 oz. fiberglass cloth. Any suggestions on what core I should use to replace it? I would prefer to use some kind of foam again but I’m not sure about the thickness. The available foam cores seem to thinner now days. Thanks.
Stanley: look at Fibre Glast for foam - http://www.fibreglast.com/category/Foam Jerry can better comment on the thickness and weight to use. :: Dave Scobie -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 4/6/14, Stanley Wheatley <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote: New to me M17 had delamination under the starboard cockpit seat due to some pretty big voids in the resin the core was supposed to be bedded in. Appears to be 1” foam core covered with 1 layer of 6 oz. fiberglass cloth. Any suggestions on what core I should use to replace it? I would prefer to use some kind of foam again but I’m not sure about the thickness. The available foam cores seem to thinner now days. Thanks.
As noted before, I removed the slab of 1" green foam from the underside of my starboard cockpit seat. I assumed the foam was structural, but it has been suggested on another forum that the foam was for flotation. That makes some sense because a structural foam core on a small boat would not usually be 1" thick, but I am not aware that the M17 was ever touted as having positive flotation. The foam appears to have been factory installed before the deck was attached to the hull. Perhaps it was a custom option? Boat is a 1976, hull no. 215. Any insight would be much appreciated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanley Wheatley" <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 8:51:51 PM Subject: M_Boats: Behold the carnage New to me M17 had delamination under the starboard cockpit seat due to some pretty big voids in the resin the core was supposed to be bedded in. Appears to be 1” foam core covered with 1 layer of 6 oz. fiberglass cloth. Any suggestions on what core I should use to replace it? I would prefer to use some kind of foam again but I’m not sure about the thickness. The available foam cores seem to thinner now days. Thanks.
that foam wasn't for flotation. to keep the M17 floating the entire space under the cockpit, including the lockers, and 1/2 the cabin would need to be full of foam. the foam has me puzzled as Jerry preferred(s) balsa core to strength the decks and transom. about 1/4" balsa on the seats would be enough. i'm wondering if the foam you see there was added by a past owner? Jerry needs to jump in here about the layup schedule for the original M17 deck. my M17 has the 'new' deck design so i'm not able to provide a comparison when looking at SWEET PEA. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:39 AM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
As noted before, I removed the slab of 1" green foam from the underside of my starboard cockpit seat. I assumed the foam was structural, but it has been suggested on another forum that the foam was for flotation. That makes some sense because a structural foam core on a small boat would not usually be 1" thick, but I am not aware that the M17 was ever touted as having positive flotation. The foam appears to have been factory installed before the deck was attached to the hull. Perhaps it was a custom option? Boat is a 1976, hull no. 215.
Any insight would be much appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Wheatley" <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 8:51:51 PM Subject: M_Boats: Behold the carnage
New to me M17 had delamination under the starboard cockpit seat due to some pretty big voids in the resin the core was supposed to be bedded in. Appears to be 1” foam core covered with 1 layer of 6 oz. fiberglass cloth. Any suggestions on what core I should use to replace it? I would prefer to use some kind of foam again but I’m not sure about the thickness. The available foam cores seem to thinner now days.
Thanks.
-- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
The more I think about this the more I think the foam was just for insulation. The built-in cooler just aft appears to be wrapped with the same stuff and I'm guessing that without the foam you would get lots of moisture condensing on the underside of the seat and dripping onto the quarter-berth and its occupant. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:10:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Is the foam under my starboard cockpit seat structural or for flotation? that foam wasn't for flotation. to keep the M17 floating the entire space under the cockpit, including the lockers, and 1/2 the cabin would need to be full of foam. the foam has me puzzled as Jerry preferred(s) balsa core to strength the decks and transom. about 1/4" balsa on the seats would be enough. i'm wondering if the foam you see there was added by a past owner? Jerry needs to jump in here about the layup schedule for the original M17 deck. my M17 has the 'new' deck design so i'm not able to provide a comparison when looking at SWEET PEA. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:39 AM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
As noted before, I removed the slab of 1" green foam from the underside of my starboard cockpit seat. I assumed the foam was structural, but it has been suggested on another forum that the foam was for flotation. That makes some sense because a structural foam core on a small boat would not usually be 1" thick, but I am not aware that the M17 was ever touted as having positive flotation. The foam appears to have been factory installed before the deck was attached to the hull. Perhaps it was a custom option? Boat is a 1976, hull no. 215.
Any insight would be much appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Wheatley" <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 8:51:51 PM Subject: M_Boats: Behold the carnage
New to me M17 had delamination under the starboard cockpit seat due to some pretty big voids in the resin the core was supposed to be bedded in. Appears to be 1” foam core covered with 1 layer of 6 oz. fiberglass cloth. Any suggestions on what core I should use to replace it? I would prefer to use some kind of foam again but I’m not sure about the thickness. The available foam cores seem to thinner now days.
Thanks.
-- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
My montgomery 17 circa 1977 also has a hatch in the aft starboard cockpit seat. The enclosed space underneath does not have a drain so I wonder if it was meant to be a cooler or just some attempt at dry storage. A drain hole drilled into the cockpit for ice melting would also allow water from a flooded cockpit to access the "cooler" area though. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:23 PM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
The more I think about this the more I think the foam was just for insulation. The built-in cooler just aft appears to be wrapped with the same stuff and I'm guessing that without the foam you would get lots of moisture condensing on the underside of the seat and dripping onto the quarter-berth and its occupant.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:10:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Is the foam under my starboard cockpit seat structural or for flotation?
that foam wasn't for flotation. to keep the M17 floating the entire space under the cockpit, including the lockers, and 1/2 the cabin would need to be full of foam.
the foam has me puzzled as Jerry preferred(s) balsa core to strength the decks and transom. about 1/4" balsa on the seats would be enough.
i'm wondering if the foam you see there was added by a past owner?
Jerry needs to jump in here about the layup schedule for the original M17 deck. my M17 has the 'new' deck design so i'm not able to provide a comparison when looking at SWEET PEA.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:39 AM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
As noted before, I removed the slab of 1" green foam from the underside of my starboard cockpit seat. I assumed the foam was structural, but it has been suggested on another forum that the foam was for flotation. That makes some sense because a structural foam core on a small boat would not usually be 1" thick, but I am not aware that the M17 was ever touted as having positive flotation. The foam appears to have been factory installed before the deck was attached to the hull. Perhaps it was a custom option? Boat is a 1976, hull no. 215.
Any insight would be much appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Wheatley" <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 8:51:51 PM Subject: M_Boats: Behold the carnage
New to me M17 had delamination under the starboard cockpit seat due to some pretty big voids in the resin the core was supposed to be bedded in. Appears to be 1” foam core covered with 1 layer of 6 oz. fiberglass cloth. Any suggestions on what core I should use to replace it? I would prefer to use some kind of foam again but I’m not sure about the thickness. The available foam cores seem to thinner now days.
Thanks.
-- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
Yes, that locker was designed so it could be used as a built-in cooler, though I think few owners ever did that. My question goes to the underside of the cockpit seat forward of that locker/cooler. Does your boat have anything there? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:43:08 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Is the foam under my starboard cockpit seat structural or for flotation? My montgomery 17 circa 1977 also has a hatch in the aft starboard cockpit seat. The enclosed space underneath does not have a drain so I wonder if it was meant to be a cooler or just some attempt at dry storage. A drain hole drilled into the cockpit for ice melting would also allow water from a flooded cockpit to access the "cooler" area though. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:23 PM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
The more I think about this the more I think the foam was just for insulation. The built-in cooler just aft appears to be wrapped with the same stuff and I'm guessing that without the foam you would get lots of moisture condensing on the underside of the seat and dripping onto the quarter-berth and its occupant.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:10:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Is the foam under my starboard cockpit seat structural or for flotation?
that foam wasn't for flotation. to keep the M17 floating the entire space under the cockpit, including the lockers, and 1/2 the cabin would need to be full of foam.
the foam has me puzzled as Jerry preferred(s) balsa core to strength the decks and transom. about 1/4" balsa on the seats would be enough.
i'm wondering if the foam you see there was added by a past owner?
Jerry needs to jump in here about the layup schedule for the original M17 deck. my M17 has the 'new' deck design so i'm not able to provide a comparison when looking at SWEET PEA.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:39 AM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
As noted before, I removed the slab of 1" green foam from the underside of my starboard cockpit seat. I assumed the foam was structural, but it has been suggested on another forum that the foam was for flotation. That makes some sense because a structural foam core on a small boat would not usually be 1" thick, but I am not aware that the M17 was ever touted as having positive flotation. The foam appears to have been factory installed before the deck was attached to the hull. Perhaps it was a custom option? Boat is a 1976, hull no. 215.
Any insight would be much appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Wheatley" <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 8:51:51 PM Subject: M_Boats: Behold the carnage
New to me M17 had delamination under the starboard cockpit seat due to some pretty big voids in the resin the core was supposed to be bedded in. Appears to be 1” foam core covered with 1 layer of 6 oz. fiberglass cloth. Any suggestions on what core I should use to replace it? I would prefer to use some kind of foam again but I’m not sure about the thickness. The available foam cores seem to thinner now days.
Thanks.
-- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
Yes, there is a stiffener of some sort under the cockpit seat on both sides, as well as under the cockpit sole and the lid of the icechest. It looks to be something like quarter or half inch balsa. The seat has some give in it from many people stepping down hard on it over the years. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:51 PM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Yes, that locker was designed so it could be used as a built-in cooler, though I think few owners ever did that. My question goes to the underside of the cockpit seat forward of that locker/cooler. Does your boat have anything there?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:43:08 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Is the foam under my starboard cockpit seat structural or for flotation?
My montgomery 17 circa 1977 also has a hatch in the aft starboard cockpit seat. The enclosed space underneath does not have a drain so I wonder if it was meant to be a cooler or just some attempt at dry storage. A drain hole drilled into the cockpit for ice melting would also allow water from a flooded cockpit to access the "cooler" area though.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:23 PM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
The more I think about this the more I think the foam was just for insulation. The built-in cooler just aft appears to be wrapped with the same stuff and I'm guessing that without the foam you would get lots of moisture condensing on the underside of the seat and dripping onto the quarter-berth and its occupant.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:10:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Is the foam under my starboard cockpit seat structural or for flotation?
that foam wasn't for flotation. to keep the M17 floating the entire space under the cockpit, including the lockers, and 1/2 the cabin would need to be full of foam.
the foam has me puzzled as Jerry preferred(s) balsa core to strength the decks and transom. about 1/4" balsa on the seats would be enough.
i'm wondering if the foam you see there was added by a past owner?
Jerry needs to jump in here about the layup schedule for the original M17 deck. my M17 has the 'new' deck design so i'm not able to provide a comparison when looking at SWEET PEA.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:39 AM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
As noted before, I removed the slab of 1" green foam from the underside of my starboard cockpit seat. I assumed the foam was structural, but it has been suggested on another forum that the foam was for flotation. That makes some sense because a structural foam core on a small boat would not usually be 1" thick, but I am not aware that the M17 was ever touted as having positive flotation. The foam appears to have been factory installed before the deck was attached to the hull. Perhaps it was a custom option? Boat is a 1976, hull no. 215.
Any insight would be much appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Wheatley" <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 8:51:51 PM Subject: M_Boats: Behold the carnage
New to me M17 had delamination under the starboard cockpit seat due to some pretty big voids in the resin the core was supposed to be bedded in. Appears to be 1” foam core covered with 1 layer of 6 oz. fiberglass cloth. Any suggestions on what core I should use to replace it? I would prefer to use some kind of foam again but I’m not sure about the thickness. The available foam cores seem to thinner now days.
Thanks.
-- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
the foam in your prior picture does look 'low density' so the insulation idea seems logical. i've inspected a couple of the 'old deck' M17s (when i was looking to buy a M17 and to help others) ... i can't say 100%, but i think the 'old deck' M17s don't have any core in that location. don't hold me to this, i honestly can't remember. (Jerry?) there is core in the locker lids ... i inspected a boat where the locker lid core was completely rotten. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:23 AM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
The more I think about this the more I think the foam was just for insulation. The built-in cooler just aft appears to be wrapped with the same stuff and I'm guessing that without the foam you would get lots of moisture condensing on the underside of the seat and dripping onto the quarter-berth and its occupant.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:10:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Is the foam under my starboard cockpit seat structural or for flotation?
that foam wasn't for flotation. to keep the M17 floating the entire space under the cockpit, including the lockers, and 1/2 the cabin would need to be full of foam.
the foam has me puzzled as Jerry preferred(s) balsa core to strength the decks and transom. about 1/4" balsa on the seats would be enough.
i'm wondering if the foam you see there was added by a past owner?
Jerry needs to jump in here about the layup schedule for the original M17 deck. my M17 has the 'new' deck design so i'm not able to provide a comparison when looking at SWEET PEA.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:39 AM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
As noted before, I removed the slab of 1" green foam from the underside of my starboard cockpit seat. I assumed the foam was structural, but it has been suggested on another forum that the foam was for flotation. That makes some sense because a structural foam core on a small boat would not usually be 1" thick, but I am not aware that the M17 was ever touted as having positive flotation. The foam appears to have been factory installed before the deck was attached to the hull. Perhaps it was a custom option? Boat is a 1976, hull no. 215.
Any insight would be much appreciated.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stanley Wheatley" <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 8:51:51 PM Subject: M_Boats: Behold the carnage
New to me M17 had delamination under the starboard cockpit seat due to some pretty big voids in the resin the core was supposed to be bedded in. Appears to be 1” foam core covered with 1 layer of 6 oz. fiberglass cloth. Any suggestions on what core I should use to replace it? I would prefer to use some kind of foam again but I’m not sure about the thickness. The available foam cores seem to thinner now days.
Thanks.
-- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
-- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
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Hi, I am on Yahoo mail and I received a notice that I'm going to be removed from the distribution because emails are bouncing back. Thanks, Ron On Friday, April 18, 2014 1:30 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote: My yahoo account quit working about a week and a half ago. I am now trying a Google account, the email I sent an hour ago still has not gone through the listpoc. :: Dave Scobie On Apr 18, 2014 2:08 PM, "Keith Diehl" <kdiehl@xmission.com> wrote:
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Keith, Yahoo hosts my private domain and provides email services to it. My incoming mail comes through pop.bizmail.yahoo.com . Outgoing mail is via smtp.bizmail.yahoo.com I have been receiving mail from the list without problems. If this post shows up, I can post to the list too. Judy Judy Blumhorst Hyde Sails of Northern California www.judybsails.com judy@judybsails.com cell: 925.208.1692 fax: 925.820.2327 skype: judith.blumhorst www.HydeSails.com/NorthAmerica ________________________________ From: Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:07 PM Subject: M_Boats: Hotmail - Yahoo mail users -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hotmail, Yahoo mail and a few others recently implemented an anti-spam protocol that has broken most internet mailing lists. I'm wondering if this has been fixed by them and if any members using Hotmail and Yahoo are now receiving list mail. (not everyone need reply to this! :>) ) Keith Diehl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTUYXxAAoJEEGD4/R1sUHe6SkH/1sKi32oWVptY/1m1J/rQtxp IN532diJiZpUr0l3s6uMxYM6Gmc8vmrujJt6orGze92VD6Q/G7vFVmR0/PmRWv9j 0usPea1TuDHtGisxtbkK/4tLS02iXDwa0hDMmohcetS2K/EhNbVtrH7xoAgKUopl Xlw2Jh04jg4LosmsnOLF+IusOo8KOopKJCL54PaOH0XMbRmrPm13AQ4O7bMMOd5f 7iVvJrlh+F6QRA+CCKmkw/aFTK7H3lUW7JIbcsfCPX7CqeZhmhwFIhC4JziUu9gT 7AG/EAtV26dCu2NsJMBkEU1t1T4Ux4gZ9H8vRhFUCEMPMzKfu1byqouHR/uW2fI= =pBR3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Your good to go!!!! M17 Lento Kala Dale Nummi nummij@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Judith Blumhorst, DC <drjudyb@blumhorst.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 19, 2014 1:06 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hotmail - Yahoo mail users Keith, Yahoo hosts my private domain and provides email services to it. My incoming mail comes through pop.bizmail.yahoo.com . Outgoing mail is via smtp.bizmail.yahoo.com I have been receiving mail from the list without problems. If this post shows up, I can post to the list too. Judy Judy Blumhorst Hyde Sails of Northern California www.judybsails.com judy@judybsails.com cell: 925.208.1692 fax: 925.820.2327 skype: judith.blumhorst www.HydeSails.com/NorthAmerica ________________________________ From: Keith Diehl <kdiehl@xmission.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:07 PM Subject: M_Boats: Hotmail - Yahoo mail users -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hotmail, Yahoo mail and a few others recently implemented an anti-spam protocol that has broken most internet mailing lists. I'm wondering if this has been fixed by them and if any members using Hotmail and Yahoo are now receiving list mail. (not everyone need reply to this! :>) ) Keith Diehl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTUYXxAAoJEEGD4/R1sUHe6SkH/1sKi32oWVptY/1m1J/rQtxp IN532diJiZpUr0l3s6uMxYM6Gmc8vmrujJt6orGze92VD6Q/G7vFVmR0/PmRWv9j 0usPea1TuDHtGisxtbkK/4tLS02iXDwa0hDMmohcetS2K/EhNbVtrH7xoAgKUopl Xlw2Jh04jg4LosmsnOLF+IusOo8KOopKJCL54PaOH0XMbRmrPm13AQ4O7bMMOd5f 7iVvJrlh+F6QRA+CCKmkw/aFTK7H3lUW7JIbcsfCPX7CqeZhmhwFIhC4JziUu9gT 7AG/EAtV26dCu2NsJMBkEU1t1T4Ux4gZ9H8vRhFUCEMPMzKfu1byqouHR/uW2fI= =pBR3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
participants (10)
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Dale Nummi -
Dave Scobie -
Judith Blumhorst, DC -
Keith Diehl -
Ronald McNeil -
Stanley Wheatley -
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Thomas Buzzi -
Tyler Heerwagen -
W David Scobie