Hi guys: This weekend I tried rudder skulling my M-15. Worked well crossing the slip with no wind but very slow. I would hate to have to go any distance this way. I was going to try the paddle but with Sweetie on board (her first trip) I didn't want to make her nervous. BTW - She was concerned about going on the boat but soon found how stable an M-15 was. As we motored out the channel, We got the usually attention from the other boaters, "what a pretty little boat". Before long, Sweetie had the tiller in her hand and a big smile on her face. We hit open water with a light chop and a head sea but "Sweet Dream" cut through the waves with hardly a bobble. The only bounce we got was when the Marine patrol cut across our bow at high speed in their 30 ft cutter. I found that Captain Sweetie can talk like a sailor. She loves the new Bimini top. On the subject of small, open sailboats, I used to sail an Escape Rumba because it was so easy to set up. The sail fits over the mast in a sleeve but the mast has a roller furling device so you pull a cord and it furls or unfurls around the mast (great for reefing too). Very stable but I did get knocked down once. On the subject of jib downhauls, my jib drops without one. Perhaps this is because the hanks, forestay, sheaves, etc are all new. I did try one but it was something else to set up so I eliminated it. Fair winds Don Ludlow M-15 #620 Sweet Dream" -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 9:40 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. alternative propulsion (Honshells) 2. Re: Push, pull, push, pull..... (wayne yeargain) 3. Re: club footed jib (wayne yeargain) 4. Omega 14 (Honshells) 5. RE: down haul with lazy jacks (Randy Graves) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:23:04 -0500 From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> Subject: M_Boats: alternative propulsion To: "For and about MontgomerySailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <000601c3a155$3692fa80$f555b3cf@ajrogers> I'm intrigued by this electric outboard I first saw advertized in "Sailing" magazine . . . http://www.ecycle.com/eMI/eCycleMarine.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:33:57 -0600 From: "wayne yeargain" <wayne@ev1.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Push, pull, push, pull..... To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <009501c3a156$bbf8a5c0$47e428d8@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I replaced my wire to rope halyards on my "76 M17 the sheaves were worn and the wire wouldn't stay in the groove, and it seems to me the little reduced windage aloft is not worth the hassle of dealing with the wire. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith, Tom" <Tom.Smith@itron.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 5:32 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: Push, pull, push, pull..... Regarding your downhaul, four feet off the deck is probably no big deal. I attach my downhaul to the second rather than top sail hank to avoid fouling and I bet I've got 3 or 4 feet still up too, come to think about it. I've not seen a wire to rope headsail halyard but what do I know. Less windage and all that I guess. You'd want to make sure the sheave in the block is designed for wire, but I don't see any reason to change it out otherwise. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar M17-064, Unnamed PS: Connie, the FIRST thing I did when I rigged the boat was put a downhaul on, but thanks for the tip anyway! I have wire halyards though and they won't let the downhaul come all the way down. They stop about 4 feet from the tack, should I replace them? Thanks again, -R. ===== "In a power boat you may get there faster, but in a sailboat you are already there." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats This message was scanned for viruses!! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 09:37:08 -0600 From: "wayne yeargain" <wayne@ev1.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: club footed jib To: "MC Carpenter" <southisland2@earthlink.net>, <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <00a801c3a157$2e7d5be0$47e428d8@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'd like to hear if any one has tried it, probably would reduce top speed somewhat due to a smaller jib but would be intresting to try. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "MC Carpenter" <southisland2@earthlink.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 11:32 PM Subject: M_Boats: club footed jib

any one put a club footed jib on a M17. its a self tending jib

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------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:33:17 -0500 From: "Honshells" <chonshell@ia4u.net> Subject: M_Boats: Omega 14 To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <002801c3a156$a3cbaec0$f555b3cf@ajrogers> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No one boat can fill all needs . . . Personally, I want a stable . . . :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: wayne yeargain To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:19 AM Subject: Omega 14 Hi Honshells Not to detract from the excellent sailing characteristics, and salty beauty of the M boats, I admit to also owning another brand. I didn't choose the Omega particularly, rather it choose me when the previous owner, decided after two unsucessful attempts to sail, he didn't like sailing and offrered it very cheap. I couldn't afford not to buy it. Its a nice little boat east to tow, easy to rig, and easy to sail, there are lots of daysailers that fit this catagory, go out and find one that speaks to you. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: Honshells To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: Omega 14 I'm looking for small, open, but very stable sailboat, incredibly simple to rig and easy to singlehand, to sail on small inland lakes . . . My M17 is more suitable for Lake Michigan sailing, and I dry-sail it (store it mast-up on the trailer) to avoid the hassles of trailering and rigging . . . Anyway, could the Omega 14' be the small-lake boat I want? ----- Original Message ----- From: Debaene To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: Omega 14 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: no such e-mail address Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:25:46 -0600 From: Wayne <Wayne@ev1.net> To: Debaene <sukenaja@netscape.net> -----Original Message----- From: Debaene [mailto:sukenaja@netscape.net] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:57 AM To: wayne yeargain Subject: Omega 14 Hi Wayne, I've tried to find other Omega 14 owners on the internet . . . not much luck, so it's nice to find another owner who's willing to communicate. My boat is from '82 I believe. We bought it from an old fellow who moved into an assisted living facility. He hadn't sailed it for quite a few years and the part to hold the centerboard in place is missing. I've jerry-rigged something with a dowl and a rope around the mast to keep the centerboard in place, but it is less then ideal. I was wondering if you could give me the measurements of that part and perhaps a picture of what it looks like. We love the little boat, we can fit all 5 of us (2 adults, 3 children) and had a lot of fun with it already (bought it in Sept. this year). We still have a Banshee (~12ft, cat-rigged), which is not nearly as roomy, dry or forgiving for family sailing. Looking forward to your reply. Regards, Jan wayne@ev1.net wrote: Hi Jan Glad to hear you have a Omega, I have one also, great little boat mines a '78, also have a Sunfish of indeterminate age, and a '76 M17. Sometimes if i'm going to a place where I know there is little wind (most state parks for example) I'll take the Omega, it does well in light winds. Regards Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: Debaene To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: Gas filling.. We have one of those gas cans described below. It is wonderful! Never, ever spilled gas anymore! The only downside is that it doesn't work on cars, only on lawnmowers or other similar gas tanks. Jan Paul Debaene Capri Omega 14 (dreaming of a Montgomery) the_tentmakers@hotmail.com wrote: Hi. We're new to the list ... own a 1974 Montgomery 17 that has been restored and has some improvements. I noted the item about filling tanks on small motors: Briggs and Stratton makes [or made] a one gallon can with a patented fill tube that shut off automatically when the receiving tank was full. No muss .. no fuss .. no bother. I think they are still available at good lawnmower shops etc. H. Dale and Gloria L. Lilly San Carlos Community Church