Montypals: Not sure where I got this information…might have even been this list. But I recently purchased a trailer dolly. http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight. Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Had one of these for my old M15. Worked great! Always be aware that the boat may be easy to move on a flat surface, but even on a slight slope a boat, even one as light as the M15, can easily 'get away from you'. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 9/20/13, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote: Montypals: Not sure where I got this information…might have even been this list. But I recently purchased a trailer dolly. http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight. Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Oh yeah. My driveway has some undulating slope, which makes it difficult to handle. The dolly really helps that too. But you are right! I would hate to let the thing get away. That would be a disaster. Daniel On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:59 AM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Had one of these for my old M15. Worked great!
Always be aware that the boat may be easy to move on a flat surface, but even on a slight slope a boat, even one as light as the M15, can easily 'get away from you'.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
-------------------------------------------- On Fri, 9/20/13, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Not sure where I got this information…might have even been this list.
But I recently purchased a trailer dolly.
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html
One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight.
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
I have an electric tug for my M-17. Large hump in driveway made me go to this when I went from a P-15 to a P-19. In the attached picture you can see it to the lower right hooked up to the P-19. This was during the time I was a two boat owner. I don't recall the company name but they are local in the Sothern California area. If anyone is interested I can dig out all the information. There are several models and I think this one was around $1,200. Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of W David Scobie Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:00 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly Had one of these for my old M15. Worked great! Always be aware that the boat may be easy to move on a flat surface, but even on a slight slope a boat, even one as light as the M15, can easily 'get away from you'. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 9/20/13, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote: Montypals: Not sure where I got this information…might have even been this list. But I recently purchased a trailer dolly. http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight. Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6680 - Release Date: 09/19/13 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6680 - Release Date: 09/19/13
Interesting product. An electric tug would definitely do it, but rather pricy. The manual dolly can be had for as little as $60 (mine was more) and works with a light boat. A heavier boat would be harder I'm sure. I would bet your tug works great! Daniel On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:15 PM, "Jim Ellsworth" <j_ellsworth@earthlink.net> wrote:
I have an electric tug for my M-17. Large hump in driveway made me go to this when I went from a P-15 to a P-19. In the attached picture you can see it to the lower right hooked up to the P-19. This was during the time I was a two boat owner. I don't recall the company name but they are local in the Sothern California area. If anyone is interested I can dig out all the information. There are several models and I think this one was around $1,200.
Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of W David Scobie Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:00 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
Had one of these for my old M15. Worked great!
Always be aware that the boat may be easy to move on a flat surface, but even on a slight slope a boat, even one as light as the M15, can easily 'get away from you'.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com
-------------------------------------------- On Fri, 9/20/13, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Not sure where I got this information…might have even been this list.
But I recently purchased a trailer dolly.
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html
One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight.
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
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On 20-Sep-13 2:41 PM, Daniel Rich wrote: Hi Daniel, 1600 lbs sound like an awful lot of weight for an M15 and a "proper sized" trailer, unless you have the boat loaded with a pirate's treasure of gold bars, or rebuilt the keel using depleted uranium. My M15, plus equipment; HONDA 2 HP outboard, and trailer with spare tire came to about 1,200 lbs. Connie
Montypals:
Not sure where I got this information…might have even been this list.
But I recently purchased a trailer dolly.
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html
One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight.
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
I know. I have pondered that myself. I have a very beefy newer (2006) Pacific trailer designed for the boat. It looks just like the current trailers, 14 inch wheels, and has the extension. I took out the extension and weighed it, and it weighs like 40 pounds. I can't imagine it weighs 700 pounds, but I suppose it could. The boat is bone dry, and I don't have much inside it. It sits properly in the water when empty, level with the transom slightly out of the water. It sails correctly. Yet I have checked the combined weight of the trailer and boat on two different certified commercial scales, and they both came out to 1620 pounds without the outboard! What I want to do is go put the boat in the water, and drive the trailer only to the scale and weigh it. I just haven't done it. But I agree with you. Daniel On 9/20/2013 1:36 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 20-Sep-13 2:41 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Hi Daniel,
1600 lbs sound like an awful lot of weight for an M15 and a "proper sized" trailer, unless you have the boat loaded with a pirate's treasure of gold bars, or rebuilt the keel using depleted uranium.
My M15, plus equipment; HONDA 2 HP outboard, and trailer with spare tire came to about 1,200 lbs.
Connie
Montypals:
Not sure where I got this informationÂ…might have even been this list.
But I recently purchased a trailer dolly.
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html
One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight.
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
Daniel- Is this one of my boats? jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
I know. I have pondered that myself. I have a very beefy newer (2006) Pacific trailer designed for the boat. It looks just like the current trailers, 14 inch wheels, and has the extension. I took out the extension and weighed it, and it weighs like 40 pounds. I can't imagine it weighs 700 pounds, but I suppose it could. The boat is bone dry, and I don't have much inside it. It sits properly in the water when empty, level with the transom slightly out of the water. It sails correctly. Yet I have checked the combined weight of the trailer and boat on two different certified commercial scales, and they both came out to 1620 pounds without the outboard! What I want to do is go put the boat in the water, and drive the trailer only to the scale and weigh it. I just haven't done it. But I agree with you.
Daniel
On 9/20/2013 1:36 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 20-Sep-13 2:41 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Hi Daniel,
1600 lbs sound like an awful lot of weight for an M15 and a "proper sized" trailer, unless you have the boat loaded with a pirate's treasure of gold bars, or rebuilt the keel using depleted uranium.
My M15, plus equipment; HONDA 2 HP outboard, and trailer with spare tire came to about 1,200 lbs.
Connie
Montypals:
Not sure where I got this informationÂ…might have even been this list.
But I recently purchased a trailer dolly.
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html
One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight.
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
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Yes. It is a 1982 sail number 208. It is stock in every way, except a longer tiller. Stock blade. Has the hump from the steel ballast. Some foam flotation thrown in the back, but otherwise empty. Great boat by the way big fella! Daniel On 9/20/2013 3:19 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Daniel- Is this one of my boats?
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
I know. I have pondered that myself. I have a very beefy newer (2006) Pacific trailer designed for the boat. It looks just like the current trailers, 14 inch wheels, and has the extension. I took out the extension and weighed it, and it weighs like 40 pounds. I can't imagine it weighs 700 pounds, but I suppose it could. The boat is bone dry, and I don't have much inside it. It sits properly in the water when empty, level with the transom slightly out of the water. It sails correctly. Yet I have checked the combined weight of the trailer and boat on two different certified commercial scales, and they both came out to 1620 pounds without the outboard! What I want to do is go put the boat in the water, and drive the trailer only to the scale and weigh it. I just haven't done it. But I agree with you.
Daniel
On 9/20/2013 1:36 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 20-Sep-13 2:41 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Hi Daniel,
1600 lbs sound like an awful lot of weight for an M15 and a "proper sized" trailer, unless you have the boat loaded with a pirate's treasure of gold bars, or rebuilt the keel using depleted uranium.
My M15, plus equipment; HONDA 2 HP outboard, and trailer with spare tire came to about 1,200 lbs.
Connie
Montypals:
Not sure where I got this informationÂ…might have even been this list.
But I recently purchased a trailer dolly.
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html
One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight.
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
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It should weigh a bit over 800 lbs, dry. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 4:00 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
Yes. It is a 1982 sail number 208. It is stock in every way, except a longer tiller. Stock blade. Has the hump from the steel ballast. Some foam flotation thrown in the back, but otherwise empty. Great boat by the way big fella!
Daniel On 9/20/2013 3:19 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Daniel- Is this one of my boats?
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
I know. I have pondered that myself. I have a very beefy newer (2006) Pacific trailer designed for the boat. It looks just like the current trailers, 14 inch wheels, and has the extension. I took out the extension and weighed it, and it weighs like 40 pounds. I can't imagine it weighs 700 pounds, but I suppose it could. The boat is bone dry, and I don't have much inside it. It sits properly in the water when empty, level with the transom slightly out of the water. It sails correctly. Yet I have checked the combined weight of the trailer and boat on two different certified commercial scales, and they both came out to 1620 pounds without the outboard! What I want to do is go put the boat in the water, and drive the trailer only to the scale and weigh it. I just haven't done it. But I agree with you.
Daniel
On 9/20/2013 1:36 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 20-Sep-13 2:41 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Hi Daniel,
1600 lbs sound like an awful lot of weight for an M15 and a "proper sized" trailer, unless you have the boat loaded with a pirate's treasure of gold bars, or rebuilt the keel using depleted uranium.
My M15, plus equipment; HONDA 2 HP outboard, and trailer with spare tire came to about 1,200 lbs.
Connie
Montypals:
Not sure where I got this informationÂ…might have even been this list.
But I recently purchased a trailer dolly.
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html
One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight.
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
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Maybe you built this one the morning after one of your lost weekends big boy... On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:30 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org
wrote:
It should weigh a bit over 800 lbs, dry.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.**xmission.com<montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
Yes. It is a 1982 sail number 208. It is stock in every way, except a
longer tiller. Stock blade. Has the hump from the steel ballast. Some foam flotation thrown in the back, but otherwise empty. Great boat by the way big fella!
Daniel On 9/20/2013 3:19 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Daniel- Is this one of my boats?
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.** xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
I know. I have pondered that myself. I have a very beefy newer (2006)
Pacific trailer designed for the boat. It looks just like the current trailers, 14 inch wheels, and has the extension. I took out the extension and weighed it, and it weighs like 40 pounds. I can't imagine it weighs 700 pounds, but I suppose it could. The boat is bone dry, and I don't have much inside it. It sits properly in the water when empty, level with the transom slightly out of the water. It sails correctly. Yet I have checked the combined weight of the trailer and boat on two different certified commercial scales, and they both came out to 1620 pounds without the outboard! What I want to do is go put the boat in the water, and drive the trailer only to the scale and weigh it. I just haven't done it. But I agree with you.
Daniel
On 9/20/2013 1:36 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 20-Sep-13 2:41 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Hi Daniel,
1600 lbs sound like an awful lot of weight for an M15 and a "proper sized" trailer, unless you have the boat loaded with a pirate's treasure of gold bars, or rebuilt the keel using depleted uranium.
My M15, plus equipment; HONDA 2 HP outboard, and trailer with spare tire came to about 1,200 lbs.
Connie
Montypals:
Not sure where I got this information…might have even been this list.
But I recently purchased a trailer dolly.
One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to move a larger weight.
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
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Maybe I'll find Jimmy Hoffa in there?? Daniel On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe you built this one the morning after one of your lost weekends big boy...
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:30 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org
wrote:
It should weigh a bit over 800 lbs, dry.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.**xmission.com<montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
Yes. It is a 1982 sail number 208. It is stock in every way, except a
longer tiller. Stock blade. Has the hump from the steel ballast. Some foam flotation thrown in the back, but otherwise empty. Great boat by the way big fella!
Daniel On 9/20/2013 3:19 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Daniel- Is this one of my boats?
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.** xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
I know. I have pondered that myself. I have a very beefy newer (2006)
Pacific trailer designed for the boat. It looks just like the current trailers, 14 inch wheels, and has the extension. I took out the extension and weighed it, and it weighs like 40 pounds. I can't imagine it weighs 700 pounds, but I suppose it could. The boat is bone dry, and I don't have much inside it. It sits properly in the water when empty, level with the transom slightly out of the water. It sails correctly. Yet I have checked the combined weight of the trailer and boat on two different certified commercial scales, and they both came out to 1620 pounds without the outboard! What I want to do is go put the boat in the water, and drive the trailer only to the scale and weigh it. I just haven't done it. But I agree with you.
Daniel
On 9/20/2013 1:36 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 20-Sep-13 2:41 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Hi Daniel,
1600 lbs sound like an awful lot of weight for an M15 and a "proper sized" trailer, unless you have the boat loaded with a pirate's treasure of gold bars, or rebuilt the keel using depleted uranium.
My M15, plus equipment; HONDA 2 HP outboard, and trailer with spare tire came to about 1,200 lbs.
Connie
Montypals: > > Not sure where I got this information…might have even been this list. > > But I recently purchased a trailer dolly. > > http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-**Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html<http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html> > > One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh > 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are > overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer separately > from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to maneuver the > trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and somewhat > dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a trailer > dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant solution > exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer from > the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great control, > and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. I can > really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I just > thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar problems. > I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who have to > move a larger weight. > > > Daniel Rich > M15 #208 "Kestrel" > danielgrich@gmail.com > > > > >
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Could be- there was probably enough lead in him! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:33 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly Maybe I'll find Jimmy Hoffa in there?? Daniel On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> wrote:
Maybe you built this one the morning after one of your lost weekends big boy...
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:30 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org
wrote:
It should weigh a bit over 800 lbs, dry.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.**xmission.com<montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
Yes. It is a 1982 sail number 208. It is stock in every way, except a
longer tiller. Stock blade. Has the hump from the steel ballast. Some foam flotation thrown in the back, but otherwise empty. Great boat by the way big fella!
Daniel On 9/20/2013 3:19 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Daniel- Is this one of my boats?
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Rich" <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.** xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Trailer Dolly
I know. I have pondered that myself. I have a very beefy newer (2006)
Pacific trailer designed for the boat. It looks just like the current trailers, 14 inch wheels, and has the extension. I took out the extension and weighed it, and it weighs like 40 pounds. I can't imagine it weighs 700 pounds, but I suppose it could. The boat is bone dry, and I don't have much inside it. It sits properly in the water when empty, level with the transom slightly out of the water. It sails correctly. Yet I have checked the combined weight of the trailer and boat on two different certified commercial scales, and they both came out to 1620 pounds without the outboard! What I want to do is go put the boat in the water, and drive the trailer only to the scale and weigh it. I just haven't done it. But I agree with you.
Daniel
On 9/20/2013 1:36 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 20-Sep-13 2:41 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Hi Daniel,
1600 lbs sound like an awful lot of weight for an M15 and a "proper sized" trailer, unless you have the boat loaded with a pirate's treasure of gold bars, or rebuilt the keel using depleted uranium.
My M15, plus equipment; HONDA 2 HP outboard, and trailer with spare tire came to about 1,200 lbs.
Connie
Montypals: > > Not sure where I got this informationÂ…might have even been this > list. > > But I recently purchased a trailer dolly. > > http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-**Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html<http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/Rackem/RA20.html> > > One problem I have with my M15 is that the boat and trailer weigh > 1600 pounds. Now, I'm not sure if it is the boat or trailer that are > overweight since I have not had a chance to weigh the trailer > separately > from the boat. But the issue is that it becomes difficult to > maneuver the > trailer around my driveway by myself. It is always a strain, and > somewhat > dangerous. So, I had no idea that such a product existed such as a > trailer > dolly. But it turns out that a relatively inexpensive and elegant > solution > exists. The dolly has nice big wheels, and easily lifts the trailer > from > the receiver. Once lifted, I can move the boat around with great > control, > and quite easily. Just amazing. Wish I had known about this before. > I can > really put the boat and trailer with precision wherever I want. I > just > thought I would share this in case any of you are having similar > problems. > I would imagine that it would work quite well for you M17 folks who > have to > move a larger weight. > > > Daniel Rich > M15 #208 "Kestrel" > danielgrich@gmail.com > > > > >
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