Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6474 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear. BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-) TJ On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that! I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear. BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-) TJ On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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Jerry, I think the usual definition of DFL is more elegant, but I agree that it would not please a sweet old lady. On May 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that!
I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear.
BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-)
TJ
On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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She died a couple of years ago and the whole paddling community felt badly becaue she was such a sweetheart. Her name was Teodora Cantano, like music playing if you pronounce it correctly. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:23 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin Jerry, I think the usual definition of DFL is more elegant, but I agree that it would not please a sweet old lady. On May 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that!
I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear.
BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-)
TJ
On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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Gristmill? t On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
She died a couple of years ago and the whole paddling community felt badly becaue she was such a sweetheart. Her name was Teodora Cantano, like music playing if you pronounce it correctly.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Jerry, I think the usual definition of DFL is more elegant, but I agree that it would not please a sweet old lady.
On May 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that!
I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear.
BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-)
TJ
On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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That's right! You were there! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:04 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin Gristmill? t On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
She died a couple of years ago and the whole paddling community felt badly becaue she was such a sweetheart. Her name was Teodora Cantano, like music playing if you pronounce it correctly.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Jerry, I think the usual definition of DFL is more elegant, but I agree that it would not please a sweet old lady.
On May 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that!
I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear.
BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-)
TJ
On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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I see Eppie's is still up and running. Didn't we paddle an outrigger one year? t On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
That's right! You were there!
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Gristmill? t
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
She died a couple of years ago and the whole paddling community felt badly becaue she was such a sweetheart. Her name was Teodora Cantano, like music playing if you pronounce it correctly.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Jerry, I think the usual definition of DFL is more elegant, but I agree that it would not please a sweet old lady.
On May 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that!
I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear.
BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-)
TJ
On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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No, that would be the Sac State Aquatic Center's Biathlon, where we ran and then paddled back. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:07 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin I see Eppie's is still up and running. Didn't we paddle an outrigger one year? t On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
That's right! You were there!
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Gristmill? t
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
She died a couple of years ago and the whole paddling community felt badly becaue she was such a sweetheart. Her name was Teodora Cantano, like music playing if you pronounce it correctly.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Jerry, I think the usual definition of DFL is more elegant, but I agree that it would not please a sweet old lady.
On May 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that!
I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear.
BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-)
TJ
On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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Yeah, I couldn't figure out how the bike part of it worked... That was fun. You still do that? t On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
No, that would be the Sac State Aquatic Center's Biathlon, where we ran and then paddled back.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
I see Eppie's is still up and running. Didn't we paddle an outrigger one year? t
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
That's right! You were there!
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Gristmill? t
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
She died a couple of years ago and the whole paddling community felt badly becaue she was such a sweetheart. Her name was Teodora Cantano, like music playing if you pronounce it correctly.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Jerry, I think the usual definition of DFL is more elegant, but I agree that it would not please a sweet old lady.
On May 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that!
I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear.
BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-)
TJ
On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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My knees turned into hamburger after 25 years of running, so I'm just getting fat now. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:07 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin Yeah, I couldn't figure out how the bike part of it worked... That was fun. You still do that? t On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
No, that would be the Sac State Aquatic Center's Biathlon, where we ran and then paddled back.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
I see Eppie's is still up and running. Didn't we paddle an outrigger one year? t
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
That's right! You were there!
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Gristmill? t
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
She died a couple of years ago and the whole paddling community felt badly becaue she was such a sweetheart. Her name was Teodora Cantano, like music playing if you pronounce it correctly.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Jerry, I think the usual definition of DFL is more elegant, but I agree that it would not please a sweet old lady.
On May 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that!
I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear.
BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-)
TJ
On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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Three miles around here is my limit these days, but then, I'm much younger than you are. t On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:07 AM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
My knees turned into hamburger after 25 years of running, so I'm just getting fat now.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Yeah, I couldn't figure out how the bike part of it worked...
That was fun. You still do that? t
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:22 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
No, that would be the Sac State Aquatic Center's Biathlon, where we ran and then paddled back.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
I see Eppie's is still up and running. Didn't we paddle an outrigger one year? t
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:00 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
That's right! You were there!
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Smith" <openboatt@gmail.com>
To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Gristmill? t
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
She died a couple of years ago and the whole paddling community felt badly becaue she was such a sweetheart. Her name was Teodora Cantano, like music playing if you pronounce it correctly.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Jerry, I think the usual definition of DFL is more elegant, but I agree that it would not please a sweet old lady.
On May 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
I think BN means "Boat nerd", or something like that!
I used to run a canoe/kayak race and we had two special trophies; Ugliest dog and the DFL trophy. It was huge race and there were always several dogs with the spectators. One year a sweet old lady in her 80's finished last and received the trophy- she looked puzzled and asked what DFL meant. Her husband quickly stepped in and said 'did finish last", and saved the day. I thought it pretty clever.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Thanks, Jerry. It is probably a good idea to watch everything at all times, if you can figure out the meaning of what you see. I know it is not industry practice, but it would really be sweet if manufacturers supplied first buyers with diagrams/drawings and specs for everything on the boat, with suggestions as to what might deteriorate or fail from wear.
BTW, I don't know what a BN is, but my Google search suggests "Brief Nudity" or "Bangledesh Navy", both of which would make one an expert on austinetic processes :-)
TJ
On May 5, 2012, at 12:21 PM, jerry montgomery wrote:
Probably nothing to worry about, but it be smart to watch it. The pin was probably not passivated and it's just some interior iron bleeding out- something to do with an austinetic process, blah blah. If Sal is listening he knows all this stuff about stainless. The last time I saw Sal he was headed to MIT to give a lecture on stainless to the engineering dept! I did read a book on metals about 45 years ago when I decided I was going to be a BN, but all I remember are a few of the really short words.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: M_Boats: centerboard pin
Greetings, I have a 2004 M17, and following a week in San Diego Bay I noticed what appears to new rust stain around the centerboard pin on one side. Is there something in the hidden apparatus to be concerned about? I know the pin is stainless, and stainless can rust a bit, but it has never happened on longer immersions in salt water. Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla Hull 626
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