Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you. We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring. How about you? Bill M17 Makin' Time
Bill, For a number of years and through several boats, I have obtained my boat graphics from local sign companies. The vinyl graphics for advertising on cars works equally well on boats and is a bit cheaper than custom boat graphics and I am told it is the same material. It seems a bit easier to work with a local shop to get what I want. You can see an example of the graphics I had made for Griselda, my fin keel Montgomery 17 that is currently advertised on www.sailingtexas.com. I just had graphics made for Prudence, my "new to me" Seaward Fox at the local sign shop and they look great too. Why sell my Monty and buy a Fox........ 40 inch draft with Griselda's fin keel vs. 20 inch with the Prudence's wing. I have less than 3 feet of water at my dock right now which is normal in the Fall. And, yes, I do sail year round. I was out in Prudence this afternoon in 15 to 25 mph winds with a reefed main and working jib. 68 degrees which is considered cold for this area. Of course, when it is 100f and 85% humidity in the Summer............. Whitebeard
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:55:08 -0400 From: billwick@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
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the seaward fox is a nice looking little boat. with her short keel does she sail even close to the M17? the 'wing' is said to help ... but does it really make up for lost depth? as you have a sloop version i'm she she does better into the wind than the catboat style. her length makes the montgomery fans wish for a M19 or M20 ;-) dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17.375.webs.com --- On Fri, 11/5/10, Ronnie Keeler <ronkeeler@hotmail.com> wrote: ... my "new to me" Seaward Fox at the local sign shop and they look great too. Why sell my Monty and buy a Fox........ 40 inch draft with Griselda's fin keel vs. 20 inch with the Prudence's wing. I have less than 3 feet of water at my dock right now which is normal in the Fall. And, yes, I do sail year round. I was out in Prudence this afternoon in 15 to 25 mph winds with a reefed main and working jib. 68 degrees which is considered cold for this area. Of course, when it is 100f and 85% humidity in the Summer............. Whitebeard
Dave, The Fox is nowhere near the windward performer that the Monty is (especially since Griselda is a fin keel model and does better to windward than the keel/cb Montys), but all boats are a compromise. The boat is actually 17 feet on deck but they count the anchor platform in the 19 foot advertised length. The big difference in is beam; the Fox has an 8 foot beam which allows me to set up an atwartship double berth and use the V-berth area for storage. The cockpit is also wider and more comfortable. The main reason I have her is because of the shallow water at my private dock behind the house. Nice to just walk 120 feet and go sailing. Besides, I plan to do a bit of cruising in the shallow Texas coastal bays. Whitebeard.
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 17:16:52 -0700 From: wdscobie@yahoo.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: seaward fox
the seaward fox is a nice looking little boat. with her short keel does she sail even close to the M17? the 'wing' is said to help ... but does it really make up for lost depth? as you have a sloop version i'm she she does better into the wind than the catboat style.
her length makes the montgomery fans wish for a M19 or M20 ;-)
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17.375.webs.com
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Ronnie Keeler <ronkeeler@hotmail.com> wrote:
... my "new to me" Seaward Fox at the local sign shop and they look great too. Why sell my Monty and buy a Fox........ 40 inch draft with Griselda's fin keel vs. 20 inch with the Prudence's wing. I have less than 3 feet of water at my dock right now which is normal in the Fall. And, yes, I do sail year round. I was out in Prudence this afternoon in 15 to 25 mph winds with a reefed main and working jib. 68 degrees which is considered cold for this area. Of course, when it is 100f and 85% humidity in the Summer.............
Whitebeard
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Along with my M17, I have a 1990 Seaward Fox with the fractional rig, not the cat rig. My understanding is that the mast for the cat rig is prone to problems, it is carbon fiber. The Seaward is also a tough little boat, by adding the bow sprit to the Seaward Slipper 17 in the late 80's, it became the Seaward Fox 19. Some of the Seaward Fox's made are reportedly unsinkable. My opinion is that the cockpit of the Seaward is not as comfortable as the Montgomery. Randy Sommerfeld Seaward Fox "Tucson" M-17 "No Worries" -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of W David Scobie Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 7:17 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: seaward fox the seaward fox is a nice looking little boat. with her short keel does she sail even close to the M17? the 'wing' is said to help ... but does it really make up for lost depth? as you have a sloop version i'm she she does better into the wind than the catboat style. her length makes the montgomery fans wish for a M19 or M20 ;-) dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17.375.webs.com --- On Fri, 11/5/10, Ronnie Keeler <ronkeeler@hotmail.com> wrote: ... my "new to me" Seaward Fox at the local sign shop and they look great too. Why sell my Monty and buy a Fox........ 40 inch draft with Griselda's fin keel vs. 20 inch with the Prudence's wing. I have less than 3 feet of water at my dock right now which is normal in the Fall. And, yes, I do sail year round. I was out in Prudence this afternoon in 15 to 25 mph winds with a reefed main and working jib. 68 degrees which is considered cold for this area. Of course, when it is 100f and 85% humidity in the Summer............. Whitebeard _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
I once owned a Fox, it was a very pretty boat. I saw her at a boat show and fell in love. Bought her that day. However I found she didn't sail was well as she looked. It took a lot of breeze to get her going, and she didn't point well at all. Didn't win any races, but sure looked good going slow. On 11/5/10 7:16 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
the seaward fox is a nice looking little boat. with her short keel does she sail even close to the M17? the 'wing' is said to help ... but does it really make up for lost depth? as you have a sloop version i'm she she does better into the wind than the catboat style.
her length makes the montgomery fans wish for a M19 or M20 ;-)
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17.375.webs.com
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Ronnie Keeler<ronkeeler@hotmail.com> wrote:
... my "new to me" Seaward Fox at the local sign shop and they look great too. Why sell my Monty and buy a Fox........ 40 inch draft with Griselda's fin keel vs. 20 inch with the Prudence's wing. I have less than 3 feet of water at my dock right now which is normal in the Fall. And, yes, I do sail year round. I was out in Prudence this afternoon in 15 to 25 mph winds with a reefed main and working jib. 68 degrees which is considered cold for this area. Of course, when it is 100f and 85% humidity in the Summer.............
Whitebeard
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As I said in an earlier post, sailboats are a compromise. If one has plenty of depth in his sailing area, there is no better boat in the 17 foot size than a Montgomery 17 but, like most Lyle Hess boats, it has a very deep spade rudder and with the board up performance to windward is severely compromised. I found the fixed keel to outperform the CB monty to windward but 3 1/2 foot draft is a problem in the area where I sail. Of course, one can have a keel/cb monty with an Idasailor rudder and be able to negotiate shoal water with severely compromised performance. I owned a Balboa 20 (another Lyle Hess design) with a swing keel and had to account for the deep spade rudder and suffered the consequences when I didn't; including, spending the night on a shell bank when I grounded the rudder on a rapidly falling tide in Gloster, Ma. If one sails mostly in water less than 3 feet, it requires a different kind of boat with a long shallow keel and the windward peformance is just not as good as with a deep keel or C/B. I owned a Slipper 17 for several years before I sold it when I moved to Germany. When I got the boat, it was a real slug to windward, especially with the board up but I was able to make several changes over the years to improve the windward performance. Installing tracks on the side decks to allow the jib sheeting angle to be adjusted did wonders and a 150 Genoa took care of the light air sluggishness. I am in the process of making changes to the Fox to hopefully produce similar improvements. At almost age 70, I no longer race so that is not an issue but being able to negotiate the Texas coastal bays in a boat that is self righting and ramp launchable is. We pays our money and takes our choice. Whitebeard
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:40:36 -0500 From: joemoore@josephmoore.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: seaward fox
I once owned a Fox, it was a very pretty boat. I saw her at a boat show and fell in love. Bought her that day. However I found she didn't sail was well as she looked. It took a lot of breeze to get her going, and she didn't point well at all. Didn't win any races, but sure looked good going slow.
On 11/5/10 7:16 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
the seaward fox is a nice looking little boat. with her short keel does she sail even close to the M17? the 'wing' is said to help ... but does it really make up for lost depth? as you have a sloop version i'm she she does better into the wind than the catboat style.
her length makes the montgomery fans wish for a M19 or M20 ;-)
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17.375.webs.com
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Ronnie Keeler<ronkeeler@hotmail.com> wrote:
... my "new to me" Seaward Fox at the local sign shop and they look great too. Why sell my Monty and buy a Fox........ 40 inch draft with Griselda's fin keel vs. 20 inch with the Prudence's wing. I have less than 3 feet of water at my dock right now which is normal in the Fall. And, yes, I do sail year round. I was out in Prudence this afternoon in 15 to 25 mph winds with a reefed main and working jib. 68 degrees which is considered cold for this area. Of course, when it is 100f and 85% humidity in the Summer.............
Whitebeard
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Where in Texas are you? I'm in the Houston area, Sugar Land specifically. On 11/6/10 11:49 AM, Ronnie Keeler wrote:
As I said in an earlier post, sailboats are a compromise. If one has plenty of depth in his sailing area, there is no better boat in the 17 foot size than a Montgomery 17 but, like most Lyle Hess boats, it has a very deep spade rudder and with the board up performance to windward is severely compromised. I found the fixed keel to outperform the CB monty to windward but 3 1/2 foot draft is a problem in the area where I sail. Of course, one can have a keel/cb monty with an Idasailor rudder and be able to negotiate shoal water with severely compromised performance. I owned a Balboa 20 (another Lyle Hess design) with a swing keel and had to account for the deep spade rudder and suffered the consequences when I didn't; including, spending the night on a shell bank when I grounded the rudder on a rapidly falling tide in Gloster, Ma. If one sails mostly in water less than 3 feet, it requires a different kind of boat with a long shallow keel and the windward peformance is just not as good as with a deep keel or C/B. I owned a Slipper 17 for several years before I sold it when I moved to Germany. When I got the boat, it was a real slug to windward, especially with the board up but I was able to make several changes over the years to improve the windward performance. Installing tracks on the side decks to allow the jib sheeting angle to be adjusted did wonders and a 150 Genoa took care of the light air sluggishness. I am in the process of making changes to the Fox to hopefully produce similar improvements. At almost age 70, I no longer race so that is not an issue but being able to negotiate the Texas coastal bays in a boat that is self righting and ramp launchable is. We pays our money and takes our choice.
Whitebeard
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:40:36 -0500 From: joemoore@josephmoore.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: seaward fox
I once owned a Fox, it was a very pretty boat. I saw her at a boat show and fell in love. Bought her that day. However I found she didn't sail was well as she looked. It took a lot of breeze to get her going, and she didn't point well at all. Didn't win any races, but sure looked good going slow.
On 11/5/10 7:16 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
the seaward fox is a nice looking little boat. with her short keel does she sail even close to the M17? the 'wing' is said to help ... but does it really make up for lost depth? as you have a sloop version i'm she she does better into the wind than the catboat style.
her length makes the montgomery fans wish for a M19 or M20 ;-)
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17.375.webs.com
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Ronnie Keeler<ronkeeler@hotmail.com> wrote:
... my "new to me" Seaward Fox at the local sign shop and they look great too. Why sell my Monty and buy a Fox........ 40 inch draft with Griselda's fin keel vs. 20 inch with the Prudence's wing. I have less than 3 feet of water at my dock right now which is normal in the Fall. And, yes, I do sail year round. I was out in Prudence this afternoon in 15 to 25 mph winds with a reefed main and working jib. 68 degrees which is considered cold for this area. Of course, when it is 100f and 85% humidity in the Summer.............
Whitebeard
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Joe, I live on the upper end of Lake Livingston near Riverside. My house has a dock and boathouse and is on an oxbow lake off the Trinity River. One of my favorite areas to trailer to in years past has been Matagorda bay (especially the Bayous along the penninsula) and I am hoping to make the Texas 200 this year. "Prudence"' my Fox (1993 sloop rig) should do very well in that area with the shoal waters and steady Southerly breeze. Whitebeard
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 17:08:25 -0500 From: joemoore@josephmoore.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: seaward fox
Where in Texas are you? I'm in the Houston area, Sugar Land specifically.
On 11/6/10 11:49 AM, Ronnie Keeler wrote:
As I said in an earlier post, sailboats are a compromise. If one has plenty of depth in his sailing area, there is no better boat in the 17 foot size than a Montgomery 17 but, like most Lyle Hess boats, it has a very deep spade rudder and with the board up performance to windward is severely compromised. I found the fixed keel to outperform the CB monty to windward but 3 1/2 foot draft is a problem in the area where I sail. Of course, one can have a keel/cb monty with an Idasailor rudder and be able to negotiate shoal water with severely compromised performance. I owned a Balboa 20 (another Lyle Hess design) with a swing keel and had to account for the deep spade rudder and suffered the consequences when I didn't; including, spending the night on a shell bank when I grounded the rudder on a rapidly falling tide in Gloster, Ma. If one sails mostly in water less than 3 feet, it requires a different kind of boat with a long shallow keel and the windward peformance is just not as good as with a deep keel or C/B. I owned a Slipper 17 for several years before I sold it when I moved to Germany. When I got the boat, it was a real slug to windward, especially with the board up but I was able to make several changes over the years to improve the windward performance. Installing tracks on the side decks to allow the jib sheeting angle to be adjusted did wonders and a 150 Genoa took care of the light air sluggishness. I am in the process of making changes to the Fox to hopefully produce similar improvements. At almost age 70, I no longer race so that is not an issue but being able to negotiate the Texas coastal bays in a boat that is self righting and ramp launchable is. We pays our money and takes our choice.
Whitebeard
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 07:40:36 -0500 From: joemoore@josephmoore.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: seaward fox
I once owned a Fox, it was a very pretty boat. I saw her at a boat show and fell in love. Bought her that day. However I found she didn't sail was well as she looked. It took a lot of breeze to get her going, and she didn't point well at all. Didn't win any races, but sure looked good going slow.
On 11/5/10 7:16 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
the seaward fox is a nice looking little boat. with her short keel does she sail even close to the M17? the 'wing' is said to help ... but does it really make up for lost depth? as you have a sloop version i'm she she does better into the wind than the catboat style.
her length makes the montgomery fans wish for a M19 or M20 ;-)
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17.375.webs.com
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Ronnie Keeler<ronkeeler@hotmail.com> wrote:
... my "new to me" Seaward Fox at the local sign shop and they look great too. Why sell my Monty and buy a Fox........ 40 inch draft with Griselda's fin keel vs. 20 inch with the Prudence's wing. I have less than 3 feet of water at my dock right now which is normal in the Fall. And, yes, I do sail year round. I was out in Prudence this afternoon in 15 to 25 mph winds with a reefed main and working jib. 68 degrees which is considered cold for this area. Of course, when it is 100f and 85% humidity in the Summer.............
Whitebeard
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Wow, An original M-17 fixed Keel. That's a hell of a boat. I have lots of long trips in one. Hell of a boat! --- On Fri, 11/5/10, Ronnie Keeler <ronkeeler@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Ronnie Keeler <ronkeeler@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu? To: "Montgomery boats mailing list" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, November 5, 2010, 3:37 PM Bill, For a number of years and through several boats, I have obtained my boat graphics from local sign companies. The vinyl graphics for advertising on cars works equally well on boats and is a bit cheaper than custom boat graphics and I am told it is the same material. It seems a bit easier to work with a local shop to get what I want. You can see an example of the graphics I had made for Griselda, my fin keel Montgomery 17 that is currently advertised on www.sailingtexas.com. I just had graphics made for Prudence, my "new to me" Seaward Fox at the local sign shop and they look great too. Why sell my Monty and buy a Fox........ 40 inch draft with Griselda's fin keel vs. 20 inch with the Prudence's wing. I have less than 3 feet of water at my dock right now which is normal in the Fall. And, yes, I do sail year round. I was out in Prudence this afternoon in 15 to 25 mph winds with a reefed main and working jib. 68 degrees which is considered cold for this area. Of course, when it is 100f and 85% humidity in the Summer............. Whitebeard
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 16:55:08 -0400 From: billwick@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
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the list for SWEET PEA, M17 #375 - #1 create closed bulkhead between the stern cockpit 'wet' locker and the inside of cabin. there is that big 2' x 3" gap that runs along the aft end of the locker at the transom. i've started this project. now waiting for warmer weather (for epoxy work) and complete the next two projects first. #2 re-bed motor mount (rust showing behind bracket). #3 install transom boarding ladder. #4 re-bed bow pulpit (showing signs of rust behind one of the deck mounts). #5 install bow bi-color light. #6 repair shorting masthead light wiring (think the problem is the 'pig tail' at the bottom of the run so _hoping_ an easy fix). #7 create and install shelf for iPod speaker/amp unit. shelf will be just below cabin top attached to compression post. #8 hard-wire the speaker/amp unit to 12V system (i bought a unit that will run directly on 12V so just need to run some wire and make the connection). #9 take main to sail loft and see if the sail can be 'taken in' and repaired as i can't afford a new main at this time. #10 service outboard (engine and lower end oil). #11 re-bed the forward hatch latch attachment (leaking). #12 figure out why the bulkhead compass is leaking and fix. #13 run 12V to bulkhead compass so the light works. #14 design modifications to galley so the space is more accessible and useful - looking into installing a shelf inside the unit, adding a door, adding a drawer. #15 replace one bent t-bolt (baby stay port side) #16 replace one bent toggle (stay starboard side) #17 remove rigging tape for all turnbuckles and give everything a few turns to make sure nothing seizes. #18 replace winddex (broken). #19 put proper whipping' on line, sheet and halyard ends. #20 replace centerboard pendent (requires removal of stop pin. i'm going to 'convert' to a stainless bolt so i no longer have to grind and pound out and then re-bed the stop-pin. #21 inspect centerboard for rust and 'touch up' as necessary. already this fall - repainted and refinished hatch-boards (some rot so i did an epoxy fix and then four coats of varnish). eight coats of seafin (oil) on exterior teak one coat of varnish on motor mount (the wood plate that the motor attaches too). wash boat wax hull and topsides touch-up paint and rust prevention to trailer replace trailer tongue jack the above is 'just the start' i'm sure .... dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Fri, 11/5/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you. We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring. How about you? Bill M17 Makin' Time
Dave, I save whipping the ends of lines for something to do at anchor. Trouble is, I am always fussing here and there, and then it is dark. Hmmm. I do one here, one there. I believe most M17's (I stand to be corrected) have a gap from the stern locker into the side locker space. I too want to close this up, as the cabin smells like gas from time to time. I think the foam cushions also absorb this odor. Can you tell me about changing the stop pin for a bolt? Will you have the bolt head and nut exposed? It wasn't on my list yesterday, but changing the pennant is "on my list". I have it arranged to lift up the boat with a fork lift from the trailer to drop the board. Bill On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:45 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
the list for SWEET PEA, M17 #375 -
#1 create closed bulkhead between the stern cockpit 'wet' locker and the inside of cabin. there is that big 2' x 3" gap that runs along the aft end of the locker at the transom. i've started this project. now waiting for warmer weather (for epoxy work) and complete the next two projects first.
#2 re-bed motor mount (rust showing behind bracket).
#3 install transom boarding ladder.
#4 re-bed bow pulpit (showing signs of rust behind one of the deck mounts).
#5 install bow bi-color light.
#6 repair shorting masthead light wiring (think the problem is the 'pig tail' at the bottom of the run so _hoping_ an easy fix).
#7 create and install shelf for iPod speaker/amp unit. shelf will be just below cabin top attached to compression post.
#8 hard-wire the speaker/amp unit to 12V system (i bought a unit that will run directly on 12V so just need to run some wire and make the connection).
#9 take main to sail loft and see if the sail can be 'taken in' and repaired as i can't afford a new main at this time.
#10 service outboard (engine and lower end oil).
#11 re-bed the forward hatch latch attachment (leaking).
#12 figure out why the bulkhead compass is leaking and fix.
#13 run 12V to bulkhead compass so the light works.
#14 design modifications to galley so the space is more accessible and useful - looking into installing a shelf inside the unit, adding a door, adding a drawer.
#15 replace one bent t-bolt (baby stay port side)
#16 replace one bent toggle (stay starboard side)
#17 remove rigging tape for all turnbuckles and give everything a few turns to make sure nothing seizes.
#18 replace winddex (broken).
#19 put proper whipping' on line, sheet and halyard ends.
#20 replace centerboard pendent (requires removal of stop pin. i'm going to 'convert' to a stainless bolt so i no longer have to grind and pound out and then re-bed the stop-pin.
#21 inspect centerboard for rust and 'touch up' as necessary.
already this fall -
repainted and refinished hatch-boards (some rot so i did an epoxy fix and then four coats of varnish).
eight coats of seafin (oil) on exterior teak
one coat of varnish on motor mount (the wood plate that the motor attaches too).
wash boat
wax hull and topsides
touch-up paint and rust prevention to trailer
replace trailer tongue jack
the above is 'just the start' i'm sure ....
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17-375.webs.com
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
Bill M17 Makin' Time
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I believe most M17's (I stand to be corrected) have a gap from the stern locker into the side locker space. correct.
Can you tell me about changing the stop pin for a bolt? Will you have the bolt head and nut exposed? after pounding out the bin collect a stainless bolt long enough to go through the keel, nut want washers. the nut and bolt head will 'stick out'. this is the system larry yake uses and his boat is WAY fast so i'm not worried about reduced boat speed. make sure that the stop pin hole is in good condition. dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote:
Dave, I save whipping the ends of lines for something to do at anchor. Trouble is, I am always fussing here and there, and then it is dark. Hmmm. I do one here, one there. I believe most M17's (I stand to be corrected) have a gap from the stern locker into the side locker space. I too want to close this up, as the cabin smells like gas from time to time. I think the foam cushions also absorb this odor. Can you tell me about changing the stop pin for a bolt? Will you have the bolt head and nut exposed? It wasn't on my list yesterday, but changing the pennant is "on my list". I have it arranged to lift up the boat with a fork lift from the trailer to drop the board. Bill
Bill... The new model M_17s don't have a stop pin. Your centerboard down limit is the Knot in the pennant. The older boats had a cast iron board that needed a 'stop pin' aft. Fair winds Bob www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 10:44:31 -0400 From: billwick@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Dave,
I save whipping the ends of lines for something to do at anchor. Trouble is, I am always fussing here and there, and then it is dark. Hmmm. I do one here, one there.
I believe most M17's (I stand to be corrected) have a gap from the stern locker into the side locker space. I too want to close this up, as the cabin smells like gas from time to time. I think the foam cushions also absorb this odor.
Can you tell me about changing the stop pin for a bolt? Will you have the bolt head and nut exposed? It wasn't on my list yesterday, but changing the pennant is "on my list". I have it arranged to lift up the boat with a fork lift from the trailer to drop the board.
Bill
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:45 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
the list for SWEET PEA, M17 #375 -
#1 create closed bulkhead between the stern cockpit 'wet' locker and the inside of cabin. there is that big 2' x 3" gap that runs along the aft end of the locker at the transom. i've started this project. now waiting for warmer weather (for epoxy work) and complete the next two projects first.
#2 re-bed motor mount (rust showing behind bracket).
#3 install transom boarding ladder.
#4 re-bed bow pulpit (showing signs of rust behind one of the deck mounts).
#5 install bow bi-color light.
#6 repair shorting masthead light wiring (think the problem is the 'pig tail' at the bottom of the run so _hoping_ an easy fix).
#7 create and install shelf for iPod speaker/amp unit. shelf will be just below cabin top attached to compression post.
#8 hard-wire the speaker/amp unit to 12V system (i bought a unit that will run directly on 12V so just need to run some wire and make the connection).
#9 take main to sail loft and see if the sail can be 'taken in' and repaired as i can't afford a new main at this time.
#10 service outboard (engine and lower end oil).
#11 re-bed the forward hatch latch attachment (leaking).
#12 figure out why the bulkhead compass is leaking and fix.
#13 run 12V to bulkhead compass so the light works.
#14 design modifications to galley so the space is more accessible and useful - looking into installing a shelf inside the unit, adding a door, adding a drawer.
#15 replace one bent t-bolt (baby stay port side)
#16 replace one bent toggle (stay starboard side)
#17 remove rigging tape for all turnbuckles and give everything a few turns to make sure nothing seizes.
#18 replace winddex (broken).
#19 put proper whipping' on line, sheet and halyard ends.
#20 replace centerboard pendent (requires removal of stop pin. i'm going to 'convert' to a stainless bolt so i no longer have to grind and pound out and then re-bed the stop-pin.
#21 inspect centerboard for rust and 'touch up' as necessary.
already this fall -
repainted and refinished hatch-boards (some rot so i did an epoxy fix and then four coats of varnish).
eight coats of seafin (oil) on exterior teak
one coat of varnish on motor mount (the wood plate that the motor attaches too).
wash boat
wax hull and topsides
touch-up paint and rust prevention to trailer
replace trailer tongue jack
the above is 'just the start' i'm sure ....
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17-375.webs.com
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
Bill M17 Makin' Time
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bob: i sent you a private email though the nor'sea site ... did you get my message? dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com> wrote: Bob www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227
Bob, Thanks, that sounds much easier. Would be nothing worse than looking and digging for a pin that is not there. I owe you one. Bill On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com>wrote:
Bill...
The new model M_17s don't have a stop pin. Your centerboard down limit is the Knot in the pennant.
The older boats had a cast iron board that needed a 'stop pin' aft. Fair winds Bob
www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 10:44:31 -0400 From: billwick@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Dave,
I save whipping the ends of lines for something to do at anchor. Trouble is, I am always fussing here and there, and then it is dark. Hmmm. I do one here, one there.
I believe most M17's (I stand to be corrected) have a gap from the stern locker into the side locker space. I too want to close this up, as the cabin smells like gas from time to time. I think the foam cushions also absorb this odor.
Can you tell me about changing the stop pin for a bolt? Will you have the bolt head and nut exposed? It wasn't on my list yesterday, but changing the pennant is "on my list". I have it arranged to lift up the boat with a fork lift from the trailer to drop the board.
Bill
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:45 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
the list for SWEET PEA, M17 #375 -
#1 create closed bulkhead between the stern cockpit 'wet' locker and the inside of cabin. there is that big 2' x 3" gap that runs along the aft end of the locker at the transom. i've started this project. now waiting for warmer weather (for epoxy work) and complete the next two projects first.
#2 re-bed motor mount (rust showing behind bracket).
#3 install transom boarding ladder.
#4 re-bed bow pulpit (showing signs of rust behind one of the deck mounts).
#5 install bow bi-color light.
#6 repair shorting masthead light wiring (think the problem is the 'pig tail' at the bottom of the run so _hoping_ an easy fix).
#7 create and install shelf for iPod speaker/amp unit. shelf will be just below cabin top attached to compression post.
#8 hard-wire the speaker/amp unit to 12V system (i bought a unit that will run directly on 12V so just need to run some wire and make the connection).
#9 take main to sail loft and see if the sail can be 'taken in' and repaired as i can't afford a new main at this time.
#10 service outboard (engine and lower end oil).
#11 re-bed the forward hatch latch attachment (leaking).
#12 figure out why the bulkhead compass is leaking and fix.
#13 run 12V to bulkhead compass so the light works.
#14 design modifications to galley so the space is more accessible and useful - looking into installing a shelf inside the unit, adding a door, adding a drawer.
#15 replace one bent t-bolt (baby stay port side)
#16 replace one bent toggle (stay starboard side)
#17 remove rigging tape for all turnbuckles and give everything a few turns to make sure nothing seizes.
#18 replace winddex (broken).
#19 put proper whipping' on line, sheet and halyard ends.
#20 replace centerboard pendent (requires removal of stop pin. i'm going to 'convert' to a stainless bolt so i no longer have to grind and pound out and then re-bed the stop-pin.
#21 inspect centerboard for rust and 'touch up' as necessary.
already this fall -
repainted and refinished hatch-boards (some rot so i did an epoxy fix and then four coats of varnish).
eight coats of seafin (oil) on exterior teak
one coat of varnish on motor mount (the wood plate that the motor attaches too).
wash boat
wax hull and topsides
touch-up paint and rust prevention to trailer
replace trailer tongue jack
the above is 'just the start' i'm sure ....
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17-375.webs.com
--- On Fri, 11/5/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
Bill M17 Makin' Time
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bill: sorry if i didn't notice the hull number on your boat ... the 17s older than the mid 80s have 180ish lb. cast-iron centerboards and require a stop pin. dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Sat, 11/6/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote: Bob, Thanks, that sounds much easier. Would be nothing worse than looking and digging for a pin that is not there. I owe you one. Bill On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com>wrote:
Bill...
The new model M_17s don't have a stop pin. Your centerboard down limit is the Knot in the pennant.
The older boats had a cast iron board that needed a 'stop pin' aft. Fair winds Bob
www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227
Hey Dave, Not your fault. I asked where it is (or might be). I think I recall something about the stop knot from cruising the archives. Didn't think about it when I asked. All is good. Bill On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:49 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
bill:
sorry if i didn't notice the hull number on your boat ... the 17s older than the mid 80s have 180ish lb. cast-iron centerboards and require a stop pin.
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com
--- On Sat, 11/6/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote: Bob,
Thanks, that sounds much easier. Would be nothing worse than looking and digging for a pin that is not there. I owe you one.
Bill
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com
wrote:
Bill...
The new model M_17s don't have a stop pin. Your centerboard down limit is the Knot in the pennant.
The older boats had a cast iron board that needed a 'stop pin' aft. Fair winds Bob
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Strange, but I cant seem to find any pivot or stop pins on the keel of my Montgomery 17 (Hull #14). No knots in the pennant either or any chance of the pennant breaking. Could it be because it is a fixed keel? Whitebeard
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 23:53:32 -0400 From: billwick@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Hey Dave,
Not your fault. I asked where it is (or might be). I think I recall something about the stop knot from cruising the archives. Didn't think about it when I asked. All is good.
Bill
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:49 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
bill:
sorry if i didn't notice the hull number on your boat ... the 17s older than the mid 80s have 180ish lb. cast-iron centerboards and require a stop pin.
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com
--- On Sat, 11/6/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote: Bob,
Thanks, that sounds much easier. Would be nothing worse than looking and digging for a pin that is not there. I owe you one.
Bill
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com
wrote:
Bill...
The new model M_17s don't have a stop pin. Your centerboard down limit is the Knot in the pennant.
The older boats had a cast iron board that needed a 'stop pin' aft. Fair winds Bob
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Go ahead, rub it in. :) Just waiting to turn the clocks back an hour and keep on ....zzzzzzzzzzz On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Ronnie Keeler <ronkeeler@hotmail.com>wrote:
Strange, but I cant seem to find any pivot or stop pins on the keel of my Montgomery 17 (Hull #14). No knots in the pennant either or any chance of the pennant breaking. Could it be because it is a fixed keel?
Whitebeard
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 23:53:32 -0400 From: billwick@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Hey Dave,
Not your fault. I asked where it is (or might be). I think I recall something about the stop knot from cruising the archives. Didn't think about it when I asked. All is good.
Bill
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:49 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
bill:
sorry if i didn't notice the hull number on your boat ... the 17s older than the mid 80s have 180ish lb. cast-iron centerboards and require a stop pin.
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com
--- On Sat, 11/6/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote: Bob,
Thanks, that sounds much easier. Would be nothing worse than looking and digging for a pin that is not there. I owe you one.
Bill
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Bob From California < ocean37@hotmail.com
wrote:
Bill...
The new model M_17s don't have a stop pin. Your centerboard down
limit is
the Knot in the pennant.
The older boats had a cast iron board that needed a 'stop pin' aft. Fair winds Bob
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LOL..that could be the reason....Actually that old boat is probably faster than snot. Thank you Lyle. Bob
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Strange, but I cant seem to find any pivot or stop pins on the keel of my Montgomery 17 (Hull #14). No knots in the pennant either or any chance of the pennant breaking. Could it be because it is a fixed keel?
Whitebeard
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 23:53:32 -0400 From: billwick@gmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Hey Dave,
Not your fault. I asked where it is (or might be). I think I recall something about the stop knot from cruising the archives. Didn't think about it when I asked. All is good.
Bill
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:49 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
bill:
sorry if i didn't notice the hull number on your boat ... the 17s older than the mid 80s have 180ish lb. cast-iron centerboards and require a stop pin.
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com
--- On Sat, 11/6/10, Bill Wickett <billwick@gmail.com> wrote: Bob,
Thanks, that sounds much easier. Would be nothing worse than looking and digging for a pin that is not there. I owe you one.
Bill
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com
wrote:
Bill...
The new model M_17s don't have a stop pin. Your centerboard down limit is the Knot in the pennant.
The older boats had a cast iron board that needed a 'stop pin' aft. Fair winds Bob
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bob: i've sent two emails to your private email accout ... are you receiving? dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA
Hi Dave, The best way to get a hold of Bob is his cell phone. It is on his web site, 949 area code if I remember. Jim Ellsworth M-17 #603 Grace -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of W David Scobie Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 7:49 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: calling Bob Eeg bob: i've sent two emails to your private email accout ... are you receiving? dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
Dave...sorry but there are no more of my boarding ladders available. They are out of production and the ones I have in stock are for the 7 M_boats were are building now. Bob www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227 Sorry..my cell has been acting up; it forgot my password..?..hahaha..so did I...must be the RESIN. We've got a BUNCH of new M Boats coming to Lake Havasu...gonna be fun. b
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:48:49 -0800 From: wdscobie@yahoo.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: calling Bob Eeg
bob:
i've sent two emails to your private email accout ... are you receiving?
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bob: thanks for the info. good to read that mboats are being built during these difficult economic times. dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com> wrote: Dave...sorry but there are no more of my boarding ladders available. They are out of production and the ones I have in stock are for the 7 M_boats were are building now. Bob www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227 Sorry..my cell has been acting up; it forgot my password..?..hahaha..so did I...must be the RESIN. We've got a BUNCH of new M Boats coming to Lake Havasu...gonna be fun. b
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:48:49 -0800 From: wdscobie@yahoo.com
bob: i've sent two emails to your private email accout ... are you receiving? dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA
Bob, Where can I get some more of the green vinyl tape used for the sheer stripe? I dinged mine up and need to either totally replace or patch in. Any suggestions?? Thanks much, Joe M17 Seafrog ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Scobie To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: calling Bob Eeg bob: thanks for the info. good to read that mboats are being built during these difficult economic times. dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Bob From California <ocean37@hotmail.com> wrote: Dave...sorry but there are no more of my boarding ladders available. They are out of production and the ones I have in stock are for the 7 M_boats were are building now. Bob www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227 Sorry..my cell has been acting up; it forgot my password..?..hahaha..so did I...must be the RESIN. We've got a BUNCH of new M Boats coming to Lake Havasu...gonna be fun. b
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:48:49 -0800 From: wdscobie@yahoo.com
bob:
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I have Seafrog out of the water on her trailer and ready for work. The projects planned for this year are: Cabin Table Compass Light Connections/Switch Depth Sounder & Switch Interior Companionway Bulkhead Boxed in Storage Racks Lazarrette locks Mast lock for boom Varnish interior Tell Tails Raise waterline and paint bottom We'll see how much gets done... Joe M17 Seafrog ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu? I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you. We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring. How about you? Bill M17 Makin' Time _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
So there is no snow here in VA yet, although my son in Golden CO has been skiing a couple times. I have a page worth of projects on my 23 that will not be done this winter but you can check the progress on the center board, rudder and bottom job at http://picasaweb.google.com/110938325409185510143/M23?authkey=Gv1sRgCJqUgPz3.... Lots to do. Took the trailer to a trailer care shop today to get it evaluated. I don't think the brakes have worked since 1993. I am epoxying the rudder although last nights experience is that epoxy does not like to be put on a vertical surface! I am following Sean's five coats of clear epoxy then varnish coats. Looks very pretty except for all the runs. Sand sand sand. Question for the group is there are water stains on the teak in the cabin in various places. How is the best way to get rid of these? I have been oiling the teak with tung and teak oil but that does not seem to get rid of the lighter water stains in the teak. Thanks Robbin
Joe, All those sound essential, but how about lazyjacks and an elastic cord secured along the boom (as on Motu iti) to facilitate mainsail control? I can see why some folks have to raise the waterline! :-) Tom On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I have Seafrog out of the water on her trailer and ready for work. The projects planned for this year are: Cabin Table Compass Light Connections/Switch Depth Sounder & Switch Interior Companionway Bulkhead Boxed in Storage Racks Lazarrette locks Mast lock for boom Varnish interior Tell Tails Raise waterline and paint bottom We'll see how much gets done... Joe M17 Seafrog
----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
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I put in lazy jacks this last sailing season. One of the best things I've done. But I am going make some changes. Currently the blocks are located just below the spreader. I'm going to raise them another 4-5 feet up the mast. I really like the elastic cord to use in place of sail ties. That would be a pretty easy fix. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jenkins To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu? Joe, All those sound essential, but how about lazyjacks and an elastic cord secured along the boom (as on Motu iti) to facilitate mainsail control? I can see why some folks have to raise the waterline! :-) Tom On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I have Seafrog out of the water on her trailer and ready for work. The projects planned for this year are: Cabin Table Compass Light Connections/Switch Depth Sounder & Switch Interior Companionway Bulkhead Boxed in Storage Racks Lazarrette locks Mast lock for boom Varnish interior Tell Tails Raise waterline and paint bottom We'll see how much gets done... Joe M17 Seafrog
----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
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I added elastic shock cord along the boom this year. Great addition. On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I put in lazy jacks this last sailing season. One of the best things I've done. But I am going make some changes. Currently the blocks are located just below the spreader. I'm going to raise them another 4-5 feet up the mast. I really like the elastic cord to use in place of sail ties. That would be a pretty easy fix. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jenkins To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Joe, All those sound essential, but how about lazyjacks and an elastic cord secured along the boom (as on Motu iti) to facilitate mainsail control? I can see why some folks have to raise the waterline! :-) Tom
On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I have Seafrog out of the water on her trailer and ready for work. The projects planned for this year are: Cabin Table Compass Light Connections/Switch Depth Sounder & Switch Interior Companionway Bulkhead Boxed in Storage Racks Lazarrette locks Mast lock for boom Varnish interior Tell Tails Raise waterline and paint bottom We'll see how much gets done... Joe M17 Seafrog
----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
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Oh, and another task is to fix the dings and divits on my shear stripe if BOBBBBB EEEEEEG ever calls me back to give me info on how to get the stuff. Joe M17 Seafrog ps .. hey Bob, just yankin' your chain.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:13 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu? I added elastic shock cord along the boom this year. Great addition. On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I put in lazy jacks this last sailing season. One of the best things I've done. But I am going make some changes. Currently the blocks are located just below the spreader. I'm going to raise them another 4-5 feet up the mast. I really like the elastic cord to use in place of sail ties. That would be a pretty easy fix. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jenkins To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Joe, All those sound essential, but how about lazyjacks and an elastic cord secured along the boom (as on Motu iti) to facilitate mainsail control? I can see why some folks have to raise the waterline! :-) Tom
On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I have Seafrog out of the water on her trailer and ready for work. The projects planned for this year are: Cabin Table Compass Light Connections/Switch Depth Sounder & Switch Interior Companionway Bulkhead Boxed in Storage Racks Lazarrette locks Mast lock for boom Varnish interior Tell Tails Raise waterline and paint bottom We'll see how much gets done... Joe M17 Seafrog
----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
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Joe...I get the vinyl from Westmarine. Let me check and see if I have a small roll of extra for you. Bob
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:15:04 -0500 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Oh, and another task is to fix the dings and divits on my shear stripe if BOBBBBB EEEEEEG ever calls me back to give me info on how to get the stuff. Joe M17 Seafrog ps .. hey Bob, just yankin' your chain.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:13 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I added elastic shock cord along the boom this year. Great addition.
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I put in lazy jacks this last sailing season. One of the best things I've done. But I am going make some changes. Currently the blocks are located just below the spreader. I'm going to raise them another 4-5 feet up the mast. I really like the elastic cord to use in place of sail ties. That would be a pretty easy fix. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jenkins To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Joe, All those sound essential, but how about lazyjacks and an elastic cord secured along the boom (as on Motu iti) to facilitate mainsail control? I can see why some folks have to raise the waterline! :-) Tom
On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I have Seafrog out of the water on her trailer and ready for work. The projects planned for this year are: Cabin Table Compass Light Connections/Switch Depth Sounder & Switch Interior Companionway Bulkhead Boxed in Storage Racks Lazarrette locks Mast lock for boom Varnish interior Tell Tails Raise waterline and paint bottom We'll see how much gets done... Joe M17 Seafrog
----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
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WestMarine!!! Duh, that was too simple!!! Let me know you have any laying around otherwise I'll head down to WM. Thanks much, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob From California To: Monty Listserver Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:35 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu? Joe...I get the vinyl from Westmarine. Let me check and see if I have a small roll of extra for you. Bob
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:15:04 -0500 Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Oh, and another task is to fix the dings and divits on my shear stripe if BOBBBBB EEEEEEG ever calls me back to give me info on how to get the stuff. Joe M17 Seafrog ps .. hey Bob, just yankin' your chain.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:13 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I added elastic shock cord along the boom this year. Great addition.
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I put in lazy jacks this last sailing season. One of the best things I've done. But I am going make some changes. Currently the blocks are located just below the spreader. I'm going to raise them another 4-5 feet up the mast. I really like the elastic cord to use in place of sail ties. That would be a pretty easy fix. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jenkins To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 1:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
Joe, All those sound essential, but how about lazyjacks and an elastic cord secured along the boom (as on Motu iti) to facilitate mainsail control? I can see why some folks have to raise the waterline! :-) Tom
On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I have Seafrog out of the water on her trailer and ready for work. The projects planned for this year are: Cabin Table Compass Light Connections/Switch Depth Sounder & Switch Interior Companionway Bulkhead Boxed in Storage Racks Lazarrette locks Mast lock for boom Varnish interior Tell Tails Raise waterline and paint bottom We'll see how much gets done... Joe M17 Seafrog
----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Wickett To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: M_Boats: Quiet list. What projects do you have planned for the winter months or prior to Havasu?
I know, some of you get to sail most of the year round. Lucky you.
We have a tiller pilot we want to install. Look for a whisker pole at the boat shows. Add some interior shelf/racks on the inside of the main cabin bulkhead for charts and stuff. Refinish the hatch boards and other teak I might take off. Order boat name graphics to put on in the spring.
How about you?
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participants (11)
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Bill Wickett -
Bob From California -
Jim Ellsworth -
Joe Moore -
Joe Murphy -
Randy and Kay Sommerfeld -
robbin roddewig -
Ronnie Keeler -
Stan Susman -
Tom Jenkins -
W David Scobie