Hi Clarence, OK, I see what you're saying. My gudgeons are different. For one thing, there's only two, which I replaced a couple years ago, and they're both 1/2". My boat was probably not the ideal one to model the kick-up rudder for, unfortunately, it was the first M17 they built one for, so the measurements they use may not be perfect for your boat. So...., if anyone out there is ordering a kick-up from Ida Sailor, give them YOUR measurements or you may have to make some modifications to fit it. Larry On Sun, 1 May 2005 13:35:41 -0400 "Clarence Andrews" <n9ca@comcast.net> writes:

Larry,

When preparing for a trip, and I have not had the boat rigged in a long time, I rig it before I leave home, and when I take it down readying for trailering, I keep everything I disassemble in or on the boat, so I won't forget anything. I also use a check-list When I installed the Idasailor rudder, I found that the lower pintle is the same diameter as the other two, which is not the way my boat came from the factory. The bottom of the rudder pin is cut down to about 3/8ths of an inch. This keeps it from sliding through, and on to the bottom of the lake, which I've managed to do before. All it required was to drill the bottom hole out to a half inch, which I easily did. The point is, to tell Idasailor the size of the holes the pintles have to fit into to save having to do this rework.

Clarence Andrews M-17 #604 Carpe Ventum

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