Hello All, I have begun a little refit of my M-15. Today I jacked the boat up and set it upon a temporary support of 6X6" on cynder blocks. Then I took out the centerboard so that it can be repaired and faired. I will also be repairing the keel as it has struck rocks a few times (oops). I have a leak that I hope to stop. The leak seaps into the lockers in the cabin which renders them unusable for anything that requires a dry space. During this time I will also sand off the antifouling paint and repaint with something a bit more pleasing to the eye. Lastly I hope get the trailer repainted as it has become quite rusty. I have posted pictures of the refit so far at h ttp://picasaweb.google.com/JDHippe <http://picasaweb.google.com/JDHippe>. John M-15 Jester
John, Check out some of Connie Benneck's remarks in the MSOG archives on that pesky leak thing. He had a similar problem and managed to fix it. Finding the leak had something to do with filling the boat with water, lying on your back and working through a six pack of beer, IIRC. Apparently yours is not an isolated problem. I have the same thing: a few cups of water in the lockers under the V-berth and in the small lockers nearer the companionway. I have the beer, but haven't got around to the rest yet, so I wish you the best of luck with the project and hope you will keep us informed of your progress. Cheers, George Haiku, M15 #385 On Apr 12, 2009, at 7:12 PM, John and DesAnne Hippe wrote:
Hello All,
I have begun a little refit of my M-15. Today I jacked the boat up and set it upon a temporary support of 6X6" on cynder blocks. Then I took out the centerboard so that it can be repaired and faired. I will also be repairing the keel as it has struck rocks a few times (oops). I have a leak that I hope to stop. The leak seaps into the lockers in the cabin which renders them unusable for anything that requires a dry space. During this time I will also sand off the antifouling paint and repaint with something a bit more pleasing to the eye. Lastly I hope get the trailer repainted as it has become quite rusty.
I have posted pictures of the refit so far at h ttp://picasaweb.google.com/JDHippe <http://picasaweb.google.com/ JDHippe>.
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Fantastic! I'm hoping to do much the same thing to my M15 this summer. How difficult was it to get the centerboard out?
From looking at your pictures I see you went to Isle Royale! Where did you put in? I am planning a ~1 week trip this summer, and am currently trying to decide if that is enough time to put in at the Apostle Islands and make the crossing to Tettegouche, then up to Isle Royale. I'd like to get a little open water time - remind me of ocean sailing (albeit on much bigger boats...).
Also, the toe rails and other woodwork looks great on your boat! Did you refinish it? I've gotten some conflicting opinions on the proper way to refinish teak - I guess this question is up for everyone: what is the best way? Sand/stain/poly? teak restorer stuff? Thanks! Chris M15 Persephone On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:12 PM, John and DesAnne Hippe <jdhippe@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello All,
I have begun a little refit of my M-15. Today I jacked the boat up and set it upon a temporary support of 6X6" on cynder blocks. Then I took out the centerboard so that it can be repaired and faired. I will also be repairing the keel as it has struck rocks a few times (oops). I have a leak that I hope to stop. The leak seaps into the lockers in the cabin which renders them unusable for anything that requires a dry space. During this time I will also sand off the antifouling paint and repaint with something a bit more pleasing to the eye. Lastly I hope get the trailer repainted as it has become quite rusty.
I have posted pictures of the refit so far at h ttp://picasaweb.google.com/JDHippe <http://picasaweb.google.com/JDHippe>.
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Hi John, Connie here.... It sounds as if you have the same kind of problem that I did on our M15. After a brisk sail across Lake Champlain and back to the Essex, NY marina, I found both lockers under the mattresses with about a gallon of water on each side. At the dock my wife careened the boat, and I found water merrily flowing into the lockers on each side, through gaps in the inside liner. The next question was: where is the water coming in? To make a long search operation description short, it turned out to be coming from the aft end of the centerboard trunk slot, at a joint between the centerboard trunk and the interior liner of the boat M15). I found it the hard way, by filling the inside of the boat with water and waiting for it to drip underneath to see where the leak was. Once it started dripping, I found the leak was in the centerboard trunk. The next question was; exactly where in that area was the leak? To pinpoint the exact location of the leak I made Styrofoam hatch boards; sealed all companionway joints, and sail locker lid joints with duct tape; fired up my big shop vac on "blow"; put the hose nozzle in a hole I cut in the Styrofoam, and pressurized the interior of the boat. Then I painted every area in the centerboard slot with copious amounts of bubble solution, and watched for the location of where the bubbles would originate. When I found the location - the aft corner of the centerboard truck / cabin liner joint. I then removed the teak board in front of the cabin entrance (drill out the center of the teak plugs and break out the pieces - new teak plugs are available at WEST Marine) That allowed me to do some surgical removal of the back end of the centerboard slot (pieces were reinstalled after the repair) in order to gain access to the leak area. I then ground out material at the joint where the leak occurred, using a DREML tool. This area was then sealed using thickened epoxy. My repair solved the problem: no more leaks: dry lockers at any angle of heel or amount of burping water through the C/B slot because of excessive speed. Good luck on your search; and the pressurized interior and bubble liquid is a lot easier solution as a search tool than the fill-it-with-water method I initially used. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO Chris Smith wrote:
Fantastic! I'm hoping to do much the same thing to my M15 this summer. How difficult was it to get the centerboard out?
From looking at your pictures I see you went to Isle Royale! Where did you put in? I am planning a ~1 week trip this summer, and am currently trying to decide if that is enough time to put in at the Apostle Islands and make the crossing to Tettegouche, then up to Isle Royale. I'd like to get a little open water time - remind me of ocean sailing (albeit on much bigger boats...).
Also, the toe rails and other woodwork looks great on your boat! Did you refinish it? I've gotten some conflicting opinions on the proper way to refinish teak - I guess this question is up for everyone: what is the best way? Sand/stain/poly? teak restorer stuff?
Thanks!
Chris M15 Persephone
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:12 PM, John and DesAnne Hippe <jdhippe@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello All,
I have begun a little refit of my M-15. Today I jacked the boat up and set it upon a temporary support of 6X6" on cynder blocks. Then I took out the centerboard so that it can be repaired and faired. I will also be repairing the keel as it has struck rocks a few times (oops). I have a leak that I hope to stop. The leak seaps into the lockers in the cabin which renders them unusable for anything that requires a dry space. During this time I will also sand off the antifouling paint and repaint with something a bit more pleasing to the eye. Lastly I hope get the trailer repainted as it has become quite rusty.
I have posted pictures of the refit so far at h ttp://picasaweb.google.com/JDHippe <http://picasaweb.google.com/JDHippe>.
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I just looked through your trip pictures of your Ilse Royal circumnavigation. WOW! What a pristine area. Not a picture of another boat after leaving the harbor. Great shots of my favorite bird, the Loon. That is a trip about dreams accomplished. Congratulations and thanks for the excellent pictures. Doug Kelch --- On Sun, 4/12/09, John and DesAnne Hippe <jdhippe@gmail.com> wrote: From: John and DesAnne Hippe <jdhippe@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Refit To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 10:12 PM Hello All, I have begun a little refit of my M-15. Today I jacked the boat up and set it upon a temporary support of 6X6" on cynder blocks. Then I took out the centerboard so that it can be repaired and faired. I will also be repairing the keel as it has struck rocks a few times (oops). I have a leak that I hope to stop. The leak seaps into the lockers in the cabin which renders them unusable for anything that requires a dry space. During this time I will also sand off the antifouling paint and repaint with something a bit more pleasing to the eye. Lastly I hope get the trailer repainted as it has become quite rusty. I have posted pictures of the refit so far at h ttp://picasaweb.google.com/JDHippe <http://picasaweb.google.com/JDHippe>. John M-15 Jester _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
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