Hi Don, Glad you were so successful removing the old mount and installing the new Fulton MM. You saved yourself all the work and cost of the additional hatch that I installed to gain easy access to the area. However, now that I have the hatch, I find it very useful for getting at things that are buried in the back corner of the Port sail locker. I now keep my cleaning bucket / sponge / and cleaning supplies back there, and instead of groping for them, when I need them, it's just open the hatch and they are there. I had the same difficulty that you find with the FULTON MM. I cut the top off mine and now the mount is 9 1/4" high, from top to bottom. The bottom bolt holding the mount pad to the lift arms is 1 1/4" from the bottom edge of the MM, if this is any help. This has a double benefit: the motor has the correct immersion depth for the propeller; .... and you reduce weight aft. The MM plate is easy to cut using a cross cut saw. I radiused the two top edges using a wood rasp, and then finished it off with a finer file. Another modification I made, that I can highly recommend is: I cut two slots in the upper surface of the MM to just fit the width of the Honda motor clamps. The slots are about1/4" deep. The idea is to center the motor on the motor mount, and at the same time capture it physically, so that in the remote case of a loosening motor mount clamp, the motor can't go anywhere. Next, with the motor located by the slots on the top surface, I tightened the clamp screws to mark the aft surface of the MM. The Honda has "Vee" shaped ridges on the forward surface of the mount clamps. Tightening the mount clamps makes marks so that you can carve out appropriate slots to fit these "Vees". Now your motor is not only centered on the mount, but also the "Vees" fit into mating notches in the aft face of the MM. With these modifications you'll find it makes life very simple when rigging your boat prior to launching. Put the Honda on the MM and it drops into it's designed space. It is always in exactly the same place. ---------------- Before I installed the FULTON MM I made a plywood mock-up of the Honda mounting clamp height to propeller dimensions, and used that, clamped to the MM as a means for locating the proper height for the MM attachment bolts on the transom. It sure beats trying to hold MM + motor as you search for the "proper" location. When I installed the MM, I made the height so that I could use the last notch on the Fulton MM to go down a bit further, if need be. Otherwise I operate in the next to last bottom notch when the MM is lowered. So far, no complaint, unless I go to the bow with the motor running, and then the propeller will come out of the water. But for normal operations, it works fine and is a big improvement over the fixed mount. To get the motor all the way up, I found I had some interference between the forward edge of the lift handle and the edge of the transom. My solution for that problem was: cut off the handle by about 1/4 inch (just the corner where I had the interference). To do this the easy way, disassemble the mount, and remove the handle. The black plastic knobs are press fits on a small shaft. A bit of judicious prying with two screwdrivers will get one removed and then the pin just slides out of the hole, giving you more working room on the offending corner. Finally, I still had interference, even after cutting off the end of the lift handle. So, ........I cut a matching grove in the bottom lip of the deck/transom joint, to give me that last 1/16" clearance I needed, and now everything works fine. Happy installing......... Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.