Hello Tom, Welcome aboard the Monty list. You'll find a wealth of information here and in the archives section of the website. The M17 is a real hotrod compared to a NorSea. I finally got my chance to sail a NS27 this week thanks to Bob Hartman in MI. Great, solid, seaworthy craft. What's not to like about a Lyle Hess boat? Later, Michael "Bones" Bowden M17 #92 M23 #75