It would be nice to have some adjustment on the outhaul, Robbin. If the wind is light, I have a very slack outhaul. As the wind increases, I tighten it up. Mount a small closed v cleat (so the line doesn't fall out when slack) on the side of the boom a foot or so forward of the little block at the end of the boom so you can control the tension. Sounds like the cheek block and cleat is to reef the main, although it sounds a little far forward for that purpose. Many ways to rig a vang, but that doesn't sound like one of them... t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle M17 #496 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robbin Roddewig Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:01 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: riggin' questions I have to ask some ignorant questions, this is my second season with my M-15 and I bought the craft without the benfit of any instructions (verbal or otherwise) on how to set it up. On this last weekends sail my oldest son and I were trying to figure out the proper set up for the outhaul and the (apparently absent) boom vang. Currently the outhaul is comprised of a short line off the end of the sail (can't remember the name, clew?, leech?) that I put through a small block that I attached to the end of the boom. Nothing but a hole was there before. The line is looped a couple times and tied off to itself. This makes the tension of the outhaul fixed for the entire sail. Not ideal. How is it supposed to be set up? Also, the boom has a fixed/flat block about half way on one side with a jam cleat forward of this. Are these for my boom vang? If so how would they work with a vang? I have looked about on the web site a bit for diagrams and have not had any luck. Thanks Robbin M-15, undecided lately of Breezy Point MD PS if any one in the chesapeake area is considering selling an older model M-17 drop me a line. I would like more room for my four sons than we have in our 15. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats