I know the topic has been covered before, but my memory is not what it used to be. Has anyone had any experience pulling an M-17 with a Toyota SR5 v-6 ? Cheers Jake Horine M-17 #263 A-koo-de-A
JAKE, I towed my M-17 "Little Breeze" all over Oregon and up from So. Cal with My Toyota Tacoma Prerunner with a V-6. NO problems at all, a bit slow in the hills but easy highway speed on the flat at 1900 rpm =65mph and 17 mpg. Good combination of boat and vehicle....Regards Arnold On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM, jake horine wrote:
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Jake, I have a 2010 Toyota 4runner, which I think has a pickup frame but some extra weight for the 4WD and extra body work. The engine is a large (270 hp?) V6, which I imagine is like the one in the pickup. It towed my 3000 pound M17 and a lot of outboard motor and other gear, and got 16.7 mpg with no power problems through 2000 miles of mountain ranges. The automatic transmission is a good one, with a manual mode for pulling and descending steep hills, but I would rather have a 6 speed manual so I can control shifting speed more precisely. Unfortunately, only the FJ Cruiser has that combo, and I don't like the body as much. The last time I made a long trip with the boat, I used my 5-speed 3/4 ton V8 Ford pickup I once used to tow a 12,000 lb Nor Sea 27 package. It did not know the boat was there, but mileage dropped from about 13 to 10 even. Hope this helps. Tom Jenkins On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Arnold Sharpe wrote:
JAKE, I towed my M-17 "Little Breeze" all over Oregon and up from So. Cal with My Toyota Tacoma Prerunner with a V-6. NO problems at all, a bit slow in the hills but easy highway speed on the flat at 1900 rpm =65mph and 17 mpg. Good combination of boat and vehicle....Regards Arnold On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM, jake horine wrote:
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Tom: You should be delighted with your 4Runner. I just towed my M-17 3,150 miles round trip to the Florida 120, got 10.9 mpg in my Honda Pilot. $4 gas was a real bummer! My experience with automatic transmixers is that Toyota units shift much as you would with a manual. But the Honda Pilot will not stay in 4th or 5th even when its possible to do so. Mark House ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:52 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject)
Jake, I have a 2010 Toyota 4runner, which I think has a pickup frame but some extra weight for the 4WD and extra body work. The engine is a large (270 hp?) V6, which I imagine is like the one in the pickup. It towed my 3000 pound M17 and a lot of outboard motor and other gear, and got 16.7 mpg with no power problems through 2000 miles of mountain ranges. The automatic transmission is a good one, with a manual mode for pulling and descending steep hills, but I would rather have a 6 speed manual so I can control shifting speed more precisely. Unfortunately, only the FJ Cruiser has that combo, and I don't like the body as much. The last time I made a long trip with the boat, I used my 5-speed 3/4 ton V8 Ford pickup I once used to tow a 12,000 lb Nor Sea 27 package. It did not know the boat was there, but mileage dropped from about 13 to 10 even. Hope this helps. Tom Jenkins
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JAKE, I towed my M-17 "Little Breeze" all over Oregon and up from So. Cal with My Toyota Tacoma Prerunner with a V-6. NO problems at all, a bit slow in the hills but easy highway speed on the flat at 1900 rpm =65mph and 17 mpg. Good combination of boat and vehicle....Regards Arnold On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM, jake horine wrote:
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Thanks, Mark. After a second two week cruise through the San Juans into Canada, I am convinced I bought the right boat; now I think I might have got a suitable towmobile. Incidentally, I spent a lot of time making a worksheet of data on potential tow vehicles. Anyone out there who wants a copy of the EXCEL spreadsheet, you can email me off-group. Tom On Jun 29, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Mark House wrote:
Tom:
You should be delighted with your 4Runner. I just towed my M-17 3,150 miles round trip to the Florida 120, got 10.9 mpg in my Honda Pilot. $4 gas was a real bummer! My experience with automatic transmixers is that Toyota units shift much as you would with a manual. But the Honda Pilot will not stay in 4th or 5th even when its possible to do so.
Mark House
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Jake, I have a 2010 Toyota 4runner, which I think has a pickup frame but some extra weight for the 4WD and extra body work. The engine is a large (270 hp?) V6, which I imagine is like the one in the pickup. It towed my 3000 pound M17 and a lot of outboard motor and other gear, and got 16.7 mpg with no power problems through 2000 miles of mountain ranges. The automatic transmission is a good one, with a manual mode for pulling and descending steep hills, but I would rather have a 6 speed manual so I can control shifting speed more precisely. Unfortunately, only the FJ Cruiser has that combo, and I don't like the body as much. The last time I made a long trip with the boat, I used my 5-speed 3/4 ton V8 Ford pickup I once used to tow a 12,000 lb Nor Sea 27 package. It did not know the boat was there, but mileage dropped from about 13 to 10 even. Hope this helps. Tom Jenkins
On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Arnold Sharpe wrote:
JAKE, I towed my M-17 "Little Breeze" all over Oregon and up from So. Cal with My Toyota Tacoma Prerunner with a V-6. NO problems at all, a bit slow in the hills but easy highway speed on the flat at 1900 rpm =65mph and 17 mpg. Good combination of boat and vehicle....Regards Arnold On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM, jake horine wrote:
I know the topic has been covered before, but my memory is not what it used to be. Has anyone had any experience pulling an M-17 with a Toyota SR5 v-6 ? Cheers Jake Horine M-17 #263 A-koo-de-A _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ montgomery_boats
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Tom, Please shoot me a cc of the excel to seagray@embarqmail.com Thanks, Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Jenkins To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:11 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject) Thanks, Mark. After a second two week cruise through the San Juans into Canada, I am convinced I bought the right boat; now I think I might have got a suitable towmobile. Incidentally, I spent a lot of time making a worksheet of data on potential tow vehicles. Anyone out there who wants a copy of the EXCEL spreadsheet, you can email me off-group. Tom On Jun 29, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Mark House wrote:
Tom:
You should be delighted with your 4Runner. I just towed my M-17 3,150 miles round trip to the Florida 120, got 10.9 mpg in my Honda Pilot. $4 gas was a real bummer! My experience with automatic transmixers is that Toyota units shift much as you would with a manual. But the Honda Pilot will not stay in 4th or 5th even when its possible to do so.
Mark House
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk@gte.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:52 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject)
Jake, I have a 2010 Toyota 4runner, which I think has a pickup frame but some extra weight for the 4WD and extra body work. The engine is a large (270 hp?) V6, which I imagine is like the one in the pickup. It towed my 3000 pound M17 and a lot of outboard motor and other gear, and got 16.7 mpg with no power problems through 2000 miles of mountain ranges. The automatic transmission is a good one, with a manual mode for pulling and descending steep hills, but I would rather have a 6 speed manual so I can control shifting speed more precisely. Unfortunately, only the FJ Cruiser has that combo, and I don't like the body as much. The last time I made a long trip with the boat, I used my 5-speed 3/4 ton V8 Ford pickup I once used to tow a 12,000 lb Nor Sea 27 package. It did not know the boat was there, but mileage dropped from about 13 to 10 even. Hope this helps. Tom Jenkins
On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Arnold Sharpe wrote:
JAKE, I towed my M-17 "Little Breeze" all over Oregon and up from So. Cal with My Toyota Tacoma Prerunner with a V-6. NO problems at all, a bit slow in the hills but easy highway speed on the flat at 1900 rpm =65mph and 17 mpg. Good combination of boat and vehicle....Regards Arnold On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM, jake horine wrote:
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With brakes on the trailer I pull an M17 with a Subaru Forester Turbo, 210 horsepower. ~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-) On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM, jake horine <smartypart@yahoo.com> wrote:
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With a Dodge Dakota I have to keep reminding myself that I'm towing my M17 Joe SeaFrog M17 #651 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M Hyde To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:09 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject) With brakes on the trailer I pull an M17 with a Subaru Forester Turbo, 210 horsepower. ~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-) On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM, jake horine <smartypart@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Yesterday while waiting to load my M-15 at a crowded boat launch, I failed to notice an overhanging tree branch and backed the boat's mast right into a high branch, just catching the tip of the mast and bending it forward in a severe curve from the halfway point upwards. Screams from the crowd ensued and although just a few feet had been traveled the Oak Tree did not give way and the mast now has a forward lean which seems to originate at about the half way point curving possibly 3 or 4 degrees.. I am crushed to have allowed such a stupid error. Can damage to the mast like this be corrected? Sign me, long- time- sailor- who-should- have- know- better. Martha 2001 M-15 Knot Head. Bone-head)
Hi Martha, stuff happens but in the overall scheme of things this sounds fairly recoverable. Hopefully for not too much money and effort. I cannot claim to have any structural engineering background but I would have to imagine it would be good to replace the tube of the mast and not try to straighten the mast. Dwyer mast http://www.dwyermast.com/ has lots of tube cross sections. You should be able to move all the components to the new tube. If it is setup like my M-23 mast the tangs for the shrouds are bolted on and the mast head fitting can be moved along with any base. I don't remember is the M-15 mast has speaders but these could be moved by drilling out the rivets and re-riveviting. If you need to rivet stainless steel rivets order a rivet tool from Jamestown Distributors, I have split and ruined what is available at Home Depot and Tractor Supply, they are not made for stainless rivets. Make sure the the mast tabernacle area was not damaged as well. Best of luck and let us know what you do and how it goes. Robbin On 6/18/2011 1:24 PM, marthaekwurtzel@aol.com wrote:
Yesterday while waiting to load my M-15 at a crowded boat launch, I failed to notice an overhanging tree branch and backed the boat's mast right into a high branch, just catching the tip of the mast and bending it forward in a severe curve from the halfway point upwards. Screams from the crowd ensued and although just a few feet had been traveled the Oak Tree did not give way and the mast now has a forward lean which seems to originate at about the half way point curving possibly 3 or 4 degrees..
I am crushed to have allowed such a stupid error. Can damage to the mast like this be corrected?
Sign me,
long- time- sailor- who-should- have- know- better.
Martha
2001 M-15 Knot Head. Bone-head)
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Robbin, Thank you so much for you quick response and great suggestions! I will look at the website you recommend, and be sure to take your advice about the rivet tool. Right now though, I am going to have a rum drink after sailing the boat back to the launch site, and getting her back on the trailer. I think the tabernacle is solid, and no spreaders on the 15 will simplify. I have enjoyed reading your postings about your M-23. Thank you all for the valuable resource you provide. Best, Martha -----Original Message----- From: robbin roddewig <robbin.roddewig@verizon.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 1:46 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up. Hi Martha, stuff happens but in the overall scheme of things this sounds fairly recoverable. Hopefully for not too much money and effort. I cannot claim to have any structural engineering background but I would have to imagine it would be good to replace the tube of the mast and not try to straighten the mast. Dwyer mast http://www.dwyermast.com/ has lots of tube cross sections. You should be able to move all the components to the new tube. If it is setup like my M-23 mast the tangs for the shrouds are bolted on and the mast head fitting can be moved along with any base. I don't remember is the M-15 mast has speaders but these could be moved by drilling out the rivets and re-riveviting. If you need to rivet stainless steel rivets order a rivet tool from Jamestown Distributors, I have split and ruined what is available at Home Depot and Tractor Supply, they are not made for stainless rivets. Make sure the the mast tabernacle area was not damaged as well. Best of luck and let us know what you do and how it goes. Robbin On 6/18/2011 1:24 PM, marthaekwurtzel@aol.com wrote:
Yesterday while waiting to load my M-15 at a crowded boat launch, I failed to notice an overhanging tree branch and backed the boat's mast right into a high branch, just catching the tip of the mast and bending it forward in a severe curve from the halfway point upwards. Screams from the crowd ensued and although just a few feet had been traveled the Oak Tree did not give way and the mast now has a forward lean which seems to originate at about the half way point curving possibly 3 or 4 degrees..
I am crushed to have allowed such a stupid error. Can damage to the mast like this be corrected?
Sign me,
long- time- sailor- who-should- have- know- better.
Martha
2001 M-15 Knot Head. Bone-head)
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I know I'm a member of this group but for some reason I cannot seem to be able to figure out where you are. I would like to be able to post on the site. Please advise. Thanks, Michelle I got an Old Fat Boat She's Slow But Handsome Hard In The Chine, but Soft In The Transom I Love Her Well, And She Must Love Me But I think It's Only For My Money . ..... Gordon Bok -----Original Message----- From: marthaekwurtzel <marthaekwurtzel@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 5:22 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up. Robbin, Thank you so much for you quick response and great suggestions! I will look t the website you recommend, and be sure to take your advice about the rivet ool. Right now though, I am going to have a rum drink after sailing the boat back to he launch site, and getting her back on the trailer. I think the tabernacle is olid, and no spreaders on the 15 will simplify. I have enjoyed reading your postings about your M-23. Thank you all for the valuable resource you provide. Best, artha -----Original Message----- rom: robbin roddewig <robbin.roddewig@verizon.net> o: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 1:46 pm ubject: Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up. i Martha, tuff happens but in the overall scheme of things this sounds fairly ecoverable. Hopefully for not too much money and effort. I cannot laim to have any structural engineering background but I would have to magine it would be good to replace the tube of the mast and not try to traighten the mast. Dwyer mast http://www.dwyermast.com/ has lots of ube cross sections. You should be able to move all the components to he new tube. If it is setup like my M-23 mast the tangs for the hrouds are bolted on and the mast head fitting can be moved along with ny base. I don't remember is the M-15 mast has speaders but these ould be moved by drilling out the rivets and re-riveviting. If you eed to rivet stainless steel rivets order a rivet tool from Jamestown istributors, I have split and ruined what is available at Home Depot nd Tractor Supply, they are not made for stainless rivets. ake sure the the mast tabernacle area was not damaged as well. Best of luck and let us know what you do and how it goes. Robbin On 6/18/2011 1:24 PM, marthaekwurtzel@aol.com wrote: Yesterday while waiting to load my M-15 at a crowded boat launch, I failed o notice an overhanging tree branch and backed the boat's mast right into a igh branch, just catching the tip of the mast and bending it forward in a evere curve from the halfway point upwards. Screams from the crowd ensued and lthough just a few feet had been traveled the Oak Tree did not give way and the mast now has a forward lean which seems to originate at about the half way oint curving possibly 3 or 4 degrees.. I am crushed to have allowed such a stupid error. Can damage to the mast like this be corrected? Sign me, long- time- sailor- who-should- have- know- better. Martha 2001 M-15 Knot Head. Bone-head) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Several years ago we drove our M17 under a tree and twisted it like a pretzel. We put one end under a car bumper , and over a saw horse and heaved down on the other end until we got it streight enough to sail.but still had a forward bend o0n top. A month ago we were at the SAGE Marine factory and told Jerry M about our problem He told me to take it off the boat and we could streighten it. We sighted down the mat , put the center of the bendon a saw horse3 and 2 people on each end and heaved until it was streight .. You will have to sight and bend, move the bent area over the saw horse and heave as many times as necessary. What do you have to loose? Sorry for the delay in replying we are now on Larry Yakes San Juan cruise and have not had i-net for several days Eldor M17 Motu iti ---- Original Message ---- From: robbin roddewig <robbin.roddewig@verizon.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 1:46 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up. Hi Martha, tuff happens but in the overall scheme of things this sounds fairly ecoverable. Hopefully for not too much money and effort. I cannot laim to have any structural engineering background but I would have to magine it would be good to replace the tube of the mast and not try to traighten the mast. Dwyer mast http://www.dwyermast.com/ has lots of ube cross sections. You should be able to move all the components to he new tube. If it is setup like my M-23 mast the tangs for the hrouds are bolted on and the mast head fitting can be moved along with ny base. I don't remember is the M-15 mast has speaders but these ould be moved by drilling out the rivets and re-riveviting. If you eed to rivet stainless steel rivets order a rivet tool from Jamestown istributors, I have split and ruined what is available at Home Depot nd Tractor Supply, they are not made for stainless rivets. ake sure the the mast tabernacle area was not damaged as well. Best of luck and let us know what you do and how it goes. Robbin On 6/18/2011 1:24 PM, marthaekwurtzel@aol.com wrote: Yesterday while waiting to load my M-15 at a crowded boat launch, I failed o notice an overhanging tree branch and backed the boat's mast right into a igh branch, just catching the tip of the mast and bending it forward in a evere curve from the halfway point upwards. Screams from the crowd ensued and lthough just a few feet had been traveled the Oak Tree did not give way and the ast now has a forward lean which seems to originate at about the half way oint curving possibly 3 or 4 degrees.. I am crushed to have allowed such a stupid error. Can damage to the mast like his be corrected? Sign me, long- time- sailor- who-should- have- know- better. Martha 2001 M-15 Knot Head. Bone-head) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Thanks so much to those who replied to my question on the towing ability of the Toyota. That's what's so great about this group. Ask, and you shall receive. Cheers Jake Horine M17 #263 A-koo-de-A ________________________________ From: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject) With a Dodge Dakota I have to keep reminding myself that I'm towing my M17 Joe SeaFrog M17 #651 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M Hyde To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:09 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: (no subject) With brakes on the trailer I pull an M17 with a Subaru Forester Turbo, 210 horsepower. ~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-) On Jun 15, 2011, at 6:11 AM, jake horine <smartypart@yahoo.com> wrote: > I know the topic has been covered before, but my memory is not what it used to be. Has anyone had any experience pulling an M-17 with a Toyota SR5 v-6 ? Cheers > Jake Horine > M-17 #263 > A-koo-de-A > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
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