Guys, am I not getting something here? Wouldn't be the first or last time that is for sure! Are we looking to tow a M-17 with a Subaru Forester if the vehicle has a tow rating of 2400 pounds? That is marginal at best and only if the boat is completely empty, I would be very careful. Or I could just be misunderstanding this thread and I have missed the fact that we are looking at towing a M-15 with a Forester. Tom Jenkins wrote: While the subject of towing is fresh in people’s minds, I weighed my M17 with full electrical package, Pacific trailer, 5 HP Honda with full fuel tank, sails, running rigging, etc., and it came out at 2950 pounds. Filled with reasonable personal gear for a boat this size, I would guess less than 3500 tow weight. No way would I consider towing a M-17 with a car that was rated at 2400# tow capacity, goodness forbid if something happened - 'victims' would "own your farm"! Check those figures - most all vehicles, unless they are trucks - require the use of brakes on a trailer that weighs more than 2000# gross. These requirements vary from vehicle to vehicle and state to state. Motor Safe, Then go Sailing. Gary O. M-17 **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)