Thanks for the response- I've got a guy that's been bugging me for a year to design him a one-off, so I guess he's somewhat serious. He would build it out of cold molded cedar- not lapstrake, just for simplicity. He was in another boat at Havasu '11 and watched the Sage do well and wants a larger Sage 17! He wants it to be easily trailerable but plans to race it in PHRF- salt water. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <bownez@juno.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:44 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: questions on a 21' Jerry and Listers, Sorry about the incomplete previous message, I have a new laptop and the keyboard is more sensitive than my old workhorse. Anyway, my size 13 canoes for feet can negotiate the M23 side deck, but, one must be careful. As I understand it, you were never very pleased with the coachroof on the original M23 anyway. Thus, to answer your question, 8' beams fine with me. Are you designing a new sailboat Mr. Montgomery? See you in Havasu. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50d26d96f085b6d960c79st04vuc -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 7577 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen