Hi Folks: Like Tim, I've also wanted a boat with more cabin, but I'm not gonna give up my M17 for awhile. She's definitely the best sailer I've ever owned (not that there have been that many) But I'm surprised the discussion didn't include the Balboas. Lyle designed the 20, 26, and 27, I think, and while they were aimed at a different type of market & built to different standards... still, being designed by Lyle I'll bet they sail better than most. Of course, a Norsea is going to be my reward in heaven, but earthly realities prevent my ownership anytime before then. Balboas can... in theory... be had by a mortal, however. Anyone have any experience with them, good/bad/otherwise? Best BG -- Brian Gilbert Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor Marine Media 3404 Hartford Dr Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com Reply-To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:36:20 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 60, Issue 13 Thanks for all the replies and information folks. I have spent a great deal of time checking all these options out. I even spoke to Fred (Sea Cutter) on the phone the other day.
If I recall correctly....it has been a long time since the Balboa 20 was produced. I would like a clean and sorted copy of whatever design I decided on. In my case, I was never a fan of the Balboa 20's look. Tim D. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of brian gilbert Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:40 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Re:M-Boats Cardinal Sin Hi Folks: Like Tim, I've also wanted a boat with more cabin, but I'm not gonna give up my M17 for awhile. She's definitely the best sailer I've ever owned (not that there have been that many) But I'm surprised the discussion didn't include the Balboas. Lyle designed the 20, 26, and 27, I think, and while they were aimed at a different type of market & built to different standards... still, being designed by Lyle I'll bet they sail better than most. Of course, a Norsea is going to be my reward in heaven, but earthly realities prevent my ownership anytime before then. Balboas can... in theory... be had by a mortal, however. Anyone have any experience with them, good/bad/otherwise? Best BG -- Brian Gilbert Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor Marine Media 3404 Hartford Dr Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com Reply-To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:36:20 -0700 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 60, Issue 13 Thanks for all the replies and information folks. I have spent a great deal of time checking all these options out. I even spoke to Fred (Sea Cutter) on the phone the other day. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1286 - Release Date: 2/18/2008 6:49 PM
The Ensenada 20 is the flush-deck version of the Balboa 20. I had one and the cabin was good for camping. Boat didn't point particularly well, and the pivot bolt for the swing keel leaked at first and looked like a real sinking hazard if the keel hit anything really solid. My M17 is more fun to sail. --Gary On Feb 19, 2008, at 6:57 AM, Tim Diebert wrote:
If I recall correctly....it has been a long time since the Balboa 20 was produced. I would like a clean and sorted copy of whatever design I decided on. In my case, I was never a fan of the Balboa 20's look.
Tim D.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of brian gilbert Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:40 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Re:M-Boats Cardinal Sin
Hi Folks:
Like Tim, I've also wanted a boat with more cabin, but I'm not gonna give up my M17 for awhile. She's definitely the best sailer I've ever owned (not that there have been that many)
But I'm surprised the discussion didn't include the Balboas. Lyle designed the 20, 26, and 27, I think, and while they were aimed at a different type of market & built to different standards... still, being designed by Lyle I'll bet they sail better than most.
Of course, a Norsea is going to be my reward in heaven, but earthly realities prevent my ownership anytime before then. Balboas can... in theory... be had by a mortal, however. Anyone have any experience with them, good/bad/otherwise?
Best BG
-- Brian Gilbert Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer-Sailor Marine Media 3404 Hartford Dr Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com
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Thanks for all the replies and information folks. I have spent a great deal of time checking all these options out. I even spoke to Fred (Sea Cutter) on the phone the other day.
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