Just a quick note about the Montgomeryowners group at yahoo. Yes, I started it but only as a place to make an owner's list. At the time it was created it was discussed that it in no way was ever meant to replace, be in competition with, or splinter this group. Just a database resource. As such, that is the only function that has ever been enabled within that yahoo groups page. It has worked fairly well as a self service database and that's also all I see it being used for in the future. :-) Sean M23 Dauntless, M17fd Sneakers (someday... LOL) Sent from my iPad