Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 232, Issue 15
Jeff, Having done this last year I would suggest installing the hardware and getting the measurements for the new sail. With the mast stepped it is a simple matter to remove the hardware assembly and the rig is back to original. If I had done this my new sail would hoist an additional 3 inches. As it is I am very happy with the install and the sail but I left some sail cloth on the table. Kevin Nauti-Cal M-17 # 400 ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:57 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 232, Issue 15 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: M17 Sail Measurements (Dave Scobie) 2. Re: Proving Ground - R2AK (Bob Eeg) 3. Re: M17 Sail Measurements (Jeff Orlando) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 07:15:25 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M17 Sail Measurements To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAGjBOA5_X_6_azYMk5UAR2rpzFEwasdD=hUoUOXW7aWPyTGEog@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Jeff: So you have the furler? You have unboxed the unit and laid flat and straightened the extrusion? :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com <<-- FOR SALE! :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com On Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 7:11 AM Jeff Orlando <jeff.orlando@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Dave.
I contacted EP about a new sail. He needs measurements requiring the furler to be installed. I don't want to install it until I have a sail or I'd be on mainsail only all summer long while the new one was built. So I was hoping to find a used sail then order a new one during the off-season.
Not considering converting present hank-on sails.
Jeff
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:46 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Contact Harry at EPSails.com. He will have you take the necessary measurements off the boat and make the sail.
A roller reef sail needs to be specifically made. Modifying a hank-on sail results in a sail the sets poorly especially reefed (and sails that are roller reefed don't set well to begin with ... especially after 30% rolled up).
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com <<-- FOR SALE! :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 6:36 AM Jeff Orlando <jeff.orlando@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone please give measurements for a furling sail that fits a Snapfurl CF-500 furler?
I want to get a sail before installing the furler.
Anyone have a used sail they want to sell?
Thanks Jeff 17-496 Olympia WA
------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 14:19:00 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Proving Ground - R2AK To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <BYAPR14MB2520B4EE309F289562AE9B15B7B19@BYAPR14MB2520.nam prd14.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Good effort…👍 Sent from my iPad
On Jun 18, 2022, at 10:12 PM, John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Yeah, congrats on managing that intensity and getting back in one piece safe and sound.
I didn't realize the R2AK had started already, went and checked the site after your post here, and read about the stage one mayhem...whew! Worst the coasties had ever seen the strait...that says a lot! Thankfully all people safe and sound!
Sounds like it was more intense even than the inaugural year's mayhem (2015), which didn't happen until further into the race, after the stage 1 to Victoria. There were some rescues and lost boats in that one but also all the people safe.
cheers, John
On 6/18/22 20:56, Kenneth D Tothero wrote: I was watching. Impressive effort & congrats on holding it all together. Good to hear that the boat was equal to the task - as was the crew. Well done! Ken Sage 17 #28 Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 18, 2022, at 2:21 PM, John Taussig <jwt2339@gmail.com> wrote:
Just a quick summary of our first attempt with #375 Sick Chicken. Decided to leave our Honda 2.3 in Bellingham and make the
50 + mile trip last Friday. Took 2 days with light air and adverse currents. Rigged up oars attached to the winches and stood up in the cockpit rowing with one hatch board in place to brace. Monday we ran into the above with 6’ seas and 30 knot winds. Cracked our tiller when we fell on it a little but fortunately had a board we had used before and after carefully sailing out of the Strait’ s ferocious wind and waves managed to get steerage. We were planning on only going to Victoria as my son had a flight he had to make Thursday - we decided with no break in the weather - to try to sail towards Bellingham. Dropped reefed mainsail and used just a furled up 130% jib. Hung on and steered around the breaking waves as we worked up Whitbey Island. Running 5 knots until we finally caught a favored flood. Recap on gps showed 56 miles including rowing out and the 30 min replacing our tiller - average speed 4.9 with a max of 11.7. During the flood tide - we stayed above 9 knots for hours. Unbelievable trip! Our boat came through beautifully - despite launching occasionally and crashing down the backs of waves as well as taking a couple of waves over the bow - we always felt in control and confident in this boat. Coast Guard Duty Captain said he had never seen it worse and in fact shut down the race on Tuesday after Monday’s 3 capsizes and 4 rescues. Disappointed that we didn’t get across but over 100 miles with no motor and severe conditions just reinforces my feeling for M-17 !! This is one tough boat! Next year! John Taussig Sick Chicken #375. M-17
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------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 07:56:58 -0700 From: Jeff Orlando <jeff.orlando@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M17 Sail Measurements To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAOgQH+RtG9SY3PoiZT74UhGOsWSjuTx_2gsuhvaT8pxYZJc=bA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes. I have the furler. Want to get a sail or some measurements before starting the installation process. Jeff On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 7:16 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff:
So you have the furler? You have unboxed the unit and laid flat and straightened the extrusion?
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com <<-- FOR SALE! :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 7:11 AM Jeff Orlando <jeff.orlando@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Dave.
I contacted EP about a new sail. He needs measurements requiring the furler to be installed. I don't want to install it until I have a sail or I'd be on mainsail only all summer long while the new one was built. So I was hoping to find a used sail then order a new one during the off-season.
Not considering converting present hank-on sails.
Jeff
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:46 AM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Contact Harry at EPSails.com. He will have you take the necessary measurements off the boat and make the sail.
A roller reef sail needs to be specifically made. Modifying a hank-on sail results in a sail the sets poorly especially reefed (and sails that are roller reefed don't set well to begin with ... especially after 30% rolled up).
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com <<-- FOR SALE! :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 6:36 AM Jeff Orlando <jeff.orlando@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone please give measurements for a furling sail that fits a Snapfurl CF-500 furler?
I want to get a sail before installing the furler.
Anyone have a used sail they want to sell?
Thanks Jeff 17-496 Olympia WA
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